Drop the S31 show for a Captain Pike show?

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Tom, May 2, 2019.

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Drop the Section 31 show for a the Pike show?

  1. Yes, I want a Pike show, and do not want a Section 31 show.

    118 vote(s)
    55.1%
  2. No, I want a Section 31 show, and do not want a show with Pike.

    9 vote(s)
    4.2%
  3. I want a show that feature both Pike and crew on the Enterprise and Section 31 with Georgiou.

    22 vote(s)
    10.3%
  4. I trust CBS to give me something I will like!

    12 vote(s)
    5.6%
  5. I want to see both! as separate shows.

    53 vote(s)
    24.8%
  1. Prax

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    It's not too late for Lorca=Garth. There's still time!
     
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  2. Gepard

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    Why would that be desirable?
     
  3. Prax

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    Because he's awesome. Why would it not be desirable?
     
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  4. Cyrus

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    If they ever do Prime Lorca that's exactly the direction they should go. And other characters will be wondering if it's still the Mirror Lorca.
     
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  5. fireproof78

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    It isn't. Its small universe syndrome.
     
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  6. King Bob!

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    If they had a great plot for a story featuring Garth, Isaacs would've been perfect casting. They didn't, and now he's Lorca.

    Besides, it saves us from the novels cramming both Lorca and Garth into stories and wittingly noting how the two look alike. Like they've done with Gul Macet and Gul Dukat.
     
  7. Bad Thoughts

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    No, they'll still complain. Indeed, one of the more famous hypercritical reviewers actually said that we need to look at the Picard trailer through the lens of what Kurtzman has already accomplished.
     
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  8. Prax

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    Have you been watching? It is a small universe. Bringing in "Prime Lorca" at all lends to the fact.
     
  9. fireproof78

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    Prime Lorca is fine. Lorca as Garth is not for me.
     
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  10. Gepard

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    They're different characters. They have different names. I don't understand where the desire to weld them together comes from.
     
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  11. Prax

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    Clearly the idea has been around for a few years now. I don't understand the objection. We don't know Garth's full name, just that he's called Garth, won some great victory, and had a great impact on Kirk and Spock.

    There's no need to be so reactionary to what was a semi-in-jest comment in the first place.
    We're here talking about a Pike show...

    A Pike show.

    With Spock.

    An entire show about captain Pike. The Star Trek universe cannot get any smaller.
     
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  12. jaime

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    Yes it can. Pike briefly lives in France, becoming a Pike-Are and has an illegitimate child when visiting Alaska, they alphabet shift and add a letter, giving rise to the Rikers. Then there is a flashback short Trek in which it is established that Pike himself is a descendant of Archer, and is third cousins with Jim Kirk...and...
     
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  13. Rahul

    Rahul Commodore Commodore

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    Well, that's the truth, isn't it?
    It just depends on personal opinion how one judges Kurtzman's previous work. There's already a lot of Kurtzman-isms visible in the PIC trailer. Though personally, I think Kurtzman's style really works from scene to scene, but he always struggles with an overarching story making sense or be meaningful. Something with which a good individual showrunner might really help.
     
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  14. fireproof78

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    Pike is a herebefore unexplored character in the Star Trek universe, and relatively unknown character apart of hardcore fans, or perhaps fans of Abrams Trek. But, his full story wasn't really told.

    And more my objection is taking a character who is already established (Lorca) and combining him with another established character (Garth).

    I would welcome Garth-as a new character.
     
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  15. Tuskin38

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    Well Kurtzman isn't the showrunner on Picard.
    And he isn't the showrunner of Discovery Season 3.
     
  16. The Wormhole

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    Because it makes no sense.
     
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  17. King Bob!

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    He is the showrunner of the entire franchise, just like Rick Berman. Nothing gets made without Kurtzman’s approval.
     
  18. Phily B

    Phily B Commodore Commodore

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    Cancel DIscovery as well, fucking awful.
     
  19. Tuskin38

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    Clearly it's doing well enough to get renewed twice.

    So that opinion must be the minority, or at least not among the people spending the most money on the show.

    If it wasn't making CBS money they, wouldn't keep making it.
     
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  20. Clegg Nog

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    This post is so low-effort even I'm jealous.
     
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