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Doctor Who 3.0 News

I'm still pissed we never saw 15 take on the Daleks or the Cybermen.
I'm fine with that. There's more to Doctor Who than Daleks and Cyberman (and The Master). The Third Doctor never faced the Cybermen (aside from a cameo in Carnival of Monsters) and neither did The Ninth Doctor. Honestly, I'm just as sick of the Daleks and the Cybermen as I'm sick of the Klingons (and that dates back to at least  Discovery).
 
I feel the opposite here, we've got 60+ years of history and I think it would be better to use and embrace that history. If you're going to pretend like that whole history never happened, and aren't going to use things that make Doctor Who Doctor Who, then you might as well just create a whole new show. I'm still pissed we never saw 15 take on the Daleks or the Cybermen.
But at some point you have to let go of the past if you want to gain a new audience. If the new incarnation of the show references past events too much or brings characters from 20, 40 or 60s years ago back then I'm worried it will very quickly push new people out because they feel like they have to do homework to get it.
Even someone like Rose who many of us still consider a "new" character stopped being a regular companion 20 years ago, the early 2000s are ancient history to kids from today who should be the ones watching the show.

I'm not saying they should pretend the Doctor doesn't have a past and that it should never ever be referenced, every character has a past but the past should not be something the new audience should feel is important to know to understand the show.
 
I hope they either go for a hard reboot or make the new Doctor the 87th Doctor or something that is so far removed from the previous incarnations that they don't matter anymore. I loved the previous show but I feel like they have to start over fresh and must use the past as a crutch anymore so no more past companion or previous Doctor appearances and no more Daleks or Cybermen for at least the first 5 seasons. So sick of them!

Isn't the brand name as a "crutch"? Then again, Doctor Who had changed so many times before and will do so again, which can't be as easily said for other shows.
 
I'm fine with that. There's more to Doctor Who than Daleks and Cyberman (and The Master). The Third Doctor never faced the Cybermen (aside from a cameo in Carnival of Monsters) and neither did The Ninth Doctor. Honestly, I'm just as sick of the Daleks and the Cybermen as I'm sick of the Klingons (and that dates back to at least  Discovery).
I get that, but I literally don't get sick of that kind of stuff. I wouldn't necessarily want Daleks and Cybermen in every episode, but I wouldn't want to see them never appear again. To me they're just as much as part of Doctor Who as The Doctor and the TARDIS, and it just doesn't feel right to me if we don't see them at least once every season or two.
But at some point you have to let go of the past if you want to gain a new audience. If the new incarnation of the show references past events too much or brings characters from 20, 40 or 60s years ago back then I'm worried it will very quickly push new people out because they feel like they have to do homework to get it.
Even someone like Rose who many of us still consider a "new" character stopped being a regular companion 20 years ago, the early 2000s are ancient history to kids from today who should be the ones watching the show.

I'm not saying they should pretend the Doctor doesn't have a past and that it should never ever be referenced, every character has a past but the past should not be something the new audience should feel is important to know to understand the show.
I thought you were saying you never wanted to see any old characters or aliens or anything like that at all.
I do agree that it shouldn't be a driving force of the series and should be done in a way that doesn't alienate new views. I was actually pretty happy with how the new series used characters and stuff from the classic series when it did use them.
 
imagine if paramount teams up with bbc doctor who and the whosverse
Oh, I have. Since the '90s. I'd have loved for McGann to land on Deep Space Nine. (It's totally a Doctor Who setting. Cf., "The Wheel in Space.") The idea of doing Doctor Who as a Star Trek spinoff, even having a Starfleet officer as a companion, has potential, IMHO. (I'd love La'an as a companion. She'd bring attitude.)
 
Oh, I have. Since the '90s. I'd have loved for McGann to land on Deep Space Nine. (It's totally a Doctor Who setting. Cf., "The Wheel in Space.") The idea of doing Doctor Who as a Star Trek spinoff, even having a Starfleet officer as a companion, has potential, IMHO. (I'd love La'an as a companion. She'd bring attitude.)

imagine laan as a companion

what if it was christine and laan as the doctors companions lol
 
Oh, I have. Since the '90s. I'd have loved for McGann to land on Deep Space Nine. (It's totally a Doctor Who setting. Cf., "The Wheel in Space.") The idea of doing Doctor Who as a Star Trek spinoff, even having a Starfleet officer as a companion, has potential, IMHO. (I'd love La'an as a companion. She'd bring attitude.)

As long as she didn't kick the bucket ;)
 
makes a change.

wasn't the cancellation in 86 partly about freeing up funds so the BBC could produce a lavish news soap (Eldorado?) that was a massive flop.

I was playing a game of transpacific telephone at the time 30 years ago, so your Intel is definitely more reliable, but I heard that Who was axed to prop up Eastenders, which has earned that Corro wanna be a lot of hissing and spitting from me over the years.
 
Oh, I have. Since the '90s. I'd have loved for McGann to land on Deep Space Nine. (It's totally a Doctor Who setting. Cf., "The Wheel in Space.") The idea of doing Doctor Who as a Star Trek spinoff, even having a Starfleet officer as a companion, has potential, IMHO. (I'd love La'an as a companion. She'd bring attitude.)
I always liked the idea of a DW/VOY crossover, just for the potential running joke of “Doctor/the Doctor” causing confusion between him and the EMH.
 
I don't want a hard reboot and there's no need for one. Ideally the way RTD handled his first era is the way to go.

The Doctor shows up, we don't know which Doctor this is. Out of universe they'd obviously be 16 (or maybe 17 if Billie is 16!), in universe maybe they're 16 maybe they're 26, it doesn't matter and in fact it's a question you may never resolve (in fact one of the positive lessons from the Timeless Child is that maybe the show should have always build in gaps to allow for celebrity and/or short run Doctors "Oh yeah I remember when I was Kate Winslet") .

There's a difference between using the show's history as a jumping off point for stories, and being beholden to it. Pick and choose what you want to acknowledge and what you don't and if certain elements of the fanbase kick up a stink then boo-hoo.

Feel comfortable in playing fast and loose with some elements of canon, hell even lampshade it: "Pretty sure I've already been on the Titanic...twice! That's time for you, always in flux."

Of course there are some parts you shouldn't play fast and loose with, for example don't try and disavow any Doctors, whether it's Hartnell, McGann, Hurt, Martin or Tennent 3.0.

You don't have to go anywhere near the Timeless Child, or the Doctor being half human, or Timelords or anything if you don't want to.
 
I was playing a game of transpacific telephone at the time 30 years ago, so your Intel is definitely more reliable, but I heard that Who was axed to prop up Eastenders, which has earned that Corro wanna be a lot of hissing and spitting from me over the years.

Eastenders for sure.
It’s another link in the ‘Eastenders is DoctorWho spin off’ chain with Dimensions
In Time.

Walford may in fact be like Shada. A Time Lord Prison Planet.
 
Chris Chibnall raised some interesting points about the BBC and the future of the show on the WHO Corner to Corner podcast (quote courtesy of ScreenRant):

It’s very hard for the BBC to fund their programs right now because of what’s been done to them in terms of funding agreements over the past 15 years and the slow whittling away of that, and the increase in big Hollywood monoliths and conglomerates really taking over the market. And, really, what you’ve got is the BBC can’t afford to fully fund any drama now and it certainly can’t afford to fund Doctor Who.​
Any discussion around it is about money more than anything else, and I think that that’s been missed a little in the discourse that I saw around the show.​
 
Huh, that's interesting, and plays into the tender confusion I had earlier. I was wondering if the BBC was against BBC Studios making Who for financial reasons.
 
No they're not. To reiterate, if BBC Studios submit a tender they will do so, effectively, as a third party. Whoever wins the tendering process will be engaged on a work for hire basis, so BBC Studios will be treated no differently to Bad Wolf, Netflix etc. BBC Studios is a commercial subsidiary of the BBCC, it isn't strictly speaking the BBC itself (although it is designed to generate profits to supplement the licence fee).

I don't know how it'll look to work, whether production companies will bid alone or as a partnership, so either of the below is possible:

BBC Studios tender to make the show.

BBC Studios to partner with HBO to make the show.

Or HBO might bid alone, or Netflix might bid with A.N. Other production company.

There an interesting link here:


The interesting part to me is the award criteria which consists of four elements.

The award criteria are: editorial proposal and capability, value for money, strategic priorities and risk.

The good thing is that it's clear that while cost is a factor, it isn't the be all and end all, and they won't just go with the cheapest option. Also risk, after getting their fingers burned with Disney one hopes they'll pay more attention here. Netflix might offer a great deal and an interesting premise but are they likely to get bored and pull out after 2/3 years?
 
Chris Chibnall raised some interesting points about the BBC and the future of the show on the WHO Corner to Corner podcast (quote courtesy of ScreenRant):

It’s very hard for the BBC to fund their programs right now because of what’s been done to them in terms of funding agreements over the past 15 years and the slow whittling away of that, and the increase in big Hollywood monoliths and conglomerates really taking over the market. And, really, what you’ve got is the BBC can’t afford to fully fund any drama now and it certainly can’t afford to fund Doctor Who.​
Any discussion around it is about money more than anything else, and I think that that’s been missed a little in the discourse that I saw around the show.​
I didn't realize BBC was struggling that much, I thought they had a ton of popular shows, so I figured they had plenty of money to make all of their own shows.
 
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