Discovery Season Four: Predictions, Speculation & Off The Wall Theories

[Tim Thomason]

Michele Paradise can say whatever she wants. Right now, the continuity between DSC season 3 and Calypso does not line up. The ship no longer looks like it did in Calypso. The V’draysh are portrayed extremely differently from the Federation. The Federation isn’t at war with anyone. The Federation doesn’t have any interest in things from the ‘Long Ago.’ Etc., etc. And at this point, any attempts to try to ‘fit’ Calypso into the continuity will just be a contrived mess.

The Federation is at war with the Emerald Chain, the guys who used the phrase "V'draysh" and are explicitly influencing primitive cultures. Craft's perspective is from outside of the V'draysh and he is most likely very incorrect in most of his assumptions.

The only real issue is the ship appearance. Discovery will have to change back. Which should be fairly easy to do to a ship with programmable matter.

 

[Kzinti]

The only real issue is the ship appearance. Discovery will have to change back.

why? visual continuity is irrelevant

 

[Nerys Myk]

why? visual continuity is irrelevant

That goes back to TOS and the Enterprise's morphing nacelles.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

The V'draysh could still be some far flung reminant of the Federation they haven't reached yet, or have forgotten about.

As far as the ship, Zora could just reset all the changes or make it look retro. If they decide to make the connection, they'll create something that sounds plausible.

 

[eschaton]

The Federation is at war with the Emerald Chain, the guys who used the phrase "V'draysh" and are explicitly influencing primitive cultures. Craft's perspective is from outside of the V'draysh and he is most likely very incorrect in most of his assumptions.

The only real issue is the ship appearance. Discovery will have to change back. Which should be fairly easy to do to a ship with programmable matter.

The comments from Michelle Paradise strongly suggest their plan is Calypso takes place after the conclusion of Discovery.

An interesting idea for a final twist: Craft is a descendant of Michael and Book. They settle down on Alchor IV with a small group of humans after Discovery is sent away for its 1,000 year wait.

 

[DigificWriter]

It was fairly obvious that DSC would link up with Calypso eventually when Far from Home introduced Zora, even though we knew that the actual events of that Short Trek weren't going to happen during Season 3 itself.

Discovery will have to change back.

Visual design isn't Canon, so, no, the Discovery doesn't have to be reverted to its 23rd Century appearance in order for DSC itself to eventually link up with Calypso.

 

[Nerys Myk]

An interesting idea for a final twist: Craft is a descendant of Michael and Book. They settle down on Alchor IV with a small group of humans after Discovery is sent away for its 1,000 year wait.

Aren't you an anti-small universe guy?

 

[Dukhat]

Continuity will become what ever Paradise wants it to be. Comes with the job.

And as I said, the ‘continuity’ will be a contrived mess.

 

[Nerys Myk]

And as I said, the ‘continuity’ will be a contrived mess.

It's been that way for decades. Any long running franchise will have the same problem. Things change. Time and technology march on. It's not a jigsaw puzzle. everything doesn't have to fit perfectly. Toss out what doesn't work anymore and bring in something new. It's fiction and entertainment not science or history.

 

[Firebird]

And as I said, the ‘continuity’ will be a contrived mess.

Plot contrivances are certainly nothing new to Star Trek.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Plot contrivances are certainly nothing new to Star Trek.

And are very on brand.

 

[Firebird]

And are very on brand.

We wouldn’t have several of the movie plots if the Enterprise didn’t happen to be the only ship conveniently in the quadrant.

 

[Deks]

It was the first time that a holodeck can read minds and know your past...
It don´t makes any sense!

I wouldn't say it doesn't make any sense.
Why?
Well the holodeck of the 32nd century likely has sensors (much like 24th century variant) which detected a Trill symbiont... and because its a lot more advanced than the 24th century version (about 710 years more advanced), it stands to reason it could detect a separate 'active' consciousness that's more prominent than others and thus provide a holographic body for it.
Plus, the holodeck malfunctioned. Its possible 32nd century holodecks can read people's minds to directly create a holo environment from their thoughts... and because Su'Kal didn't have a massive understanding of the technology, it probably just read his mind and minds of any other people that would enter the holodeck.

Neural interfaces existed in the 23rd century... so it stands to reason the holodeck of the 31st century would have a radically more advanced wireless version that could interact with people's minds (or in this case, Adira's symbiont).

Going forward, like I said before, giving Grey a body would be really simple. Slap a neural interface to Adira, and have it transfer Grey's consciousness into a holographic body and give it a mobile emitter.
Problem solved.

 

[eschaton]

Aren't you an anti-small universe guy?

I mean yes. But it's not really that small of a world issue. If Michael was part of a small group who settled Alcor IV initially every human might be descended from her after 1,000 years.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Far from Home introduced Zora

I'm not caught up with everything what is Far From Home?

 

[DigificWriter]

I'm not caught up with everything what is Far From Home?

DSC Episode 3x02.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

DSC Episode 3x02.

Oh yeah oops forgot. Yeah when she starts talking to Saru and does movie night, I forgot.

But I wonder how far along till she adopts the name Zora?

 

[Starship]

I wouldn't say it doesn't make any sense.
Why?
Well the holodeck of the 32nd century likely has sensors (much like 24th century variant) which detected a Trill symbiont... and because its a lot more advanced than the 24th century version (about 710 years more advanced), it stands to reason it could detect a separate 'active' consciousness that's more prominent than others and thus provide a holographic body for it.
Plus, the holodeck malfunctioned. Its possible 32nd century holodecks can read people's minds to directly create a holo environment from their thoughts... and because Su'Kal didn't have a massive understanding of the technology, it probably just read his mind and minds of any other people that would enter the holodeck.

Neural interfaces existed in the 23rd century... so it stands to reason the holodeck of the 31st century would have a radically more advanced wireless version that could interact with people's minds (or in this case, Adira's symbiont).

Going forward, like I said before, giving Grey a body would be really simple. Slap a neural interface to Adira, and have it transfer Grey's consciousness into a holographic body and give it a mobile emitter.
Problem solved.

Well, I think it is a plausible explanation, but I don´t think it is what the writters had in mind when they wrote the episode.

 

[Starship]

There's always first time. That's how fiction works. Plus it's like 600 years beyond the last time we saw a holodeck, so of course it makes sense. You guys complain when the tech hasn't advanced and then complain when it does. PICK A LANE!

No kidding.
32nd century technology should have more than enough space to accommodate the data.

It is just a matter of primary function of the tech and money, cause it costs money.
Look around. CPU and RAM vary depending the funcion of the tech. You don´t have the same amount of CPU, RAM and HD in a simple PC as you have in a super-computer, as you won´t have the same ammount in a droid as you´ll have in a starship computer. Sounds logical no?

 

[Nerys Myk]

Well, I think it is a plausible explanation, but I don´t think it is what the writters had in mind when they wrote the episode.

What the writers had in mind was to deepen the mystery of Grey. Why does he exist? How does he exist? Setting a plot thread for next season. The characters say as much when the see him on the planet.

It is just a matter of primary function of the tech and money, cause it costs money.
Look around. CPU and RAM vary depending the funcion of the tech. You don´t have the same amount of CPU, RAM and HD in a simple PC as you have in a super-computer, as you won´t have the same ammount in a droid as you´ll have in a starship computer. Sounds logical no?

It's fiction. The techs gonna do what's needed.