Discovery Renewed for Season 5

[Lord Garth]

I'm Facebook Friends with people I knew from high school and college who I've seen give likes to things I've seen DSC and PIC-related and a couple of them have said they're super-excited about Season 2 of PIC.

I'm in my 40s and so are my most of my friends, and when I hang out with them, we don't usually don't talk about shows or movies. Usually. We usually talk about stuff going on in our lives. Jobs, family, current events, everyday life, and then maybe "I can't wait to see XYZ movie coming up!" If a show comes up, it's a show they like or I like. We don't have the time, want, or desire to hate-watch things.

There are a few people I used to know who complained "I'm not paying for CBS All Access!" back in 2017, but I've since unfriended one of them (long story) and another one I just fell out of contact with, as happens sometimes in life.

Hanging around just to talk about how stupid a show is and wasting time hate-watching it sounds like a waste of time and it sounds pretty juvenile. Trashing things just to make yourself look cool is what middle school and high school kids do. At least certain cliques. Among my circles, to paraphrase Picard in "Encounter at Farpoint": That nonsense is decades behind us.

 

[dupersuper]

Who are "they"? Who are the people specifically who dislike DIS and PIC but like Lower Decks?

All the people I know who dislike live-action NuTrek also dislike the animated NuTrek.
Some dislike LD less than DIS and PIC, but still dislike it.

Then I guess I'm with "they". I found Picard awful and Discovery hit and miss, but love Lower Decks (and Prodigy and Short Treks...so I do like one live action NuTrek show).

 

[gvn2fly]

Who are "they"? Who are the people specifically who dislike DIS and PIC but like Lower Decks?

All the people I know who dislike live-action NuTrek also dislike the animated NuTrek.
Some dislike LD less than DIS and PIC, but still dislike it.

Actually, this image has become emblematic for people who dislike NuTrek for what Lower Decks stands for:

https://boundingintocomics.com/2021...itself-with-star-trek-lower-decks-orgy-scene/

That episode was hilarious!

 

[jackoverfull]

That episode was hilarious!

It was. I admit I found myself a bit bothered by that scene the first time I saw it, but upon rewatch, watching it with my girlfriend, it didn’t bother me at all. She found it very funny, by the way.

 

[Tuskin38]

The TrekYards hosts would fit under 'they' I guess.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I laughed my ass off at the orgy scene. Sad thing for everyone on YouTube, they apparently missed the entire point of TOS and TNG's Naked times that these things were implied to be happening off-screen in those episodes.

 

[jackoverfull]

Exactly. But the shock value was very high…which is a good thing, I guess…

 

[seigezunt]

What I've observed is quite a few people who hate DSC/PIC and like LDS, possibly because of how hard it plays to nostalgia. I seen fewer who hate *everything*, and they seem to include mostly those who hate on everything new as a source of Youtube income, or their hangers-on.

 

[Tuskin38]

Red Letter Media has at least has moved on. They were never negative for negative sake. They genuinely just did not enjoy Discovery and Picard, so they stopped reviewing it.

 

[Commander Troi]

Hanging around just to talk about how stupid a show is and wasting time hate-watching it sounds like a waste of time and it sounds pretty juvenile. Trashing things just to make yourself look cool is what middle school and high school kids do. At least certain cliques. Among my circles, to paraphrase Picard in "Encounter at Farpoint": That nonsense is decades behind us.

A-fucking-men! I have better things to do, and watch, and talk about with my friends.

 

[Skipper]

Really, unless one manages to monetize hate-watching (and it would be a really sad thing), life is too short to waste it like this.

 

[fireproof78]

Hanging around just to talk about how stupid a show is and wasting time hate-watching it sounds like a waste of time and it sounds pretty juvenile. Trashing things just to make yourself look cool is what middle school and high school kids do. At least certain cliques. Among my circles, to paraphrase Picard in "Encounter at Farpoint": That nonsense is decades behind us.

Here's the thing for me. I don't have time! I barely have time to take in the media I actually like, including movies and books and shows. My time is stretched thin between work, family and such. Hate watching is a nonsensical thing to do because it doesn't change anything about it.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

I can kind of relate with people hate-watching a series, because I've found myself sticking with series I dislike because of completism, or because I'm hoping it'll get better, or because I want closure. Sometimes it works out for me and a series starts giving me episodes I like again (Doctor Who, Enterprise), other times I'm stuck enduring something that really isn't working for me and the only joy I get out of it is chatting with like-minded people about all the ways it frustrated me (The Flash, Netflix Cowboy Bebop).

But yeah most of the time when a series isn't my thing I just stop watching because who has the time to even watch all the good TV these days?

 

[Omegaphallic]

Canada Trek (Nutrek) series release timeline (not in setting timeline).

1. Discovery is first
2. Short Treks
3. Picard (3 Seasons max)
4. Lower Decks
5. Prodigy
6. Strange New Worlds (replaces Short Treks? Has Short Treks been canceled?)
7. Section 31 (replaces Picard on the roaster, maybe coming out in 2023)
8. Star Fleet Academy (replaces Discovery after Season 5 or Six, coming out in 2023 or 2024)
9. Anthology Trek? (Like American Horror Story?, 2024 or 2025 perhaps replaces Star Lower Decks if they don't decide they cam finally handle six Star Trek series)

 

[fireproof78]

Has Short Treks been canceled?)

Short Treks is no longer being produced. There is hope from the production team to pick them up again, but not at the moment.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

Man, I suddenly feel like an idiot for thinking that there was any doubt what era Starfleet Academy would take place. If it does end up replacing Discovery then it makes a lot of sense for it to continue where it left off.

 

[Omegaphallic]

Short Treks is no longer being produced. There is hope from the production team to pick them up again, but not at the moment.

So it's in Limbo, not cancelled, not being produced, so hypothetically when Strange New Worlds comes out there could be 6 current Star Trek series, Discovery, Short Treks, Picard, Lower Decks, Prodigy, Strange New Worlds. So maybe the max is 6 not 5.

 

[fireproof78]

So it's in Limbo, not cancelled, not being produced, so hypothetically when Strange New Worlds comes out there could be 6 current Star Trek series, Discovery, Short Treks, Picard, Lower Decks, Prodigy, Strange New Worlds. So maybe the max is 6 not 5.

I imagine the max is what they feel they can safely produce in this era of COVID.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

The max seems to be however many series it takes to reach a year's worth of episodes, with a new episode every week. If Short Treks comes back it's presumably going to eat into another series' episode count.

 

[jackoverfull]

I don’t think that Short Treks has been cancelled in the traditional sense, as it was pretty much a side project, more or less bonus material to Discovery and later Picard and SNW.