Just depends on variety and freshness. I give good grades to P+ for this, and for its hired showrunners.
Discovery ending with Season 5
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Discovery sometimes tries to give the impression that those "background" characters are every bit as important as the leads of the show. I'm thinking of those montages the show loves to do where we see them pal'ing around with the lead characters.
A prime example was Arium. For a full season, she was a background character who only would have a few lines across a dozen or so episodes. When they finally decide to put Arium at the center of an episode, it's only set it up to kill her off in the end. During her funeral scene, I felt increasingly frustrated because I thought I should be feeling sad over this, but, the show never developed her enough in the past for me to get invested.
By the way, I'm not saying this to agree or disagree with anything. Just giving me own two cents.
I'll make it semi-brief because I don't want to mix it up with people who just want to dance on the grave of one of my favorite shows.
Shame this feels last minute. Would have loved to have the cast in crew go into their final season knowing they were building towards and ending. Still, five seasons for a streaming show this expensive is pretty good. And if the budget gods say the franchise has to cut back, this is the show that makes the most sense to cut.
Nostalgia comes back around. I don't think we'll see Michael and the gang for a while but give it a decade or two. They'll have their chance, I'm sure.
I was one of the odd fans who preferred season 1-2 to 3-4.
Shame this feels last minute. Would have loved to have the cast in crew go into their final season knowing they were building towards and ending. Still, five seasons for a streaming show this expensive is pretty good. And if the budget gods say the franchise has to cut back, this is the show that makes the most sense to cut.
Nostalgia comes back around. I don't think we'll see Michael and the gang for a while but give it a decade or two. They'll have their chance, I'm sure.
I was one of the odd fans who preferred season 1-2 to 3-4.
Eh, I'm pretty ok with this one ending. It was kinda all over the place, and I can't say I ever really latched onto it. Overly-emoting characters aside, I really don't feel like the format they were working with ever really worked. PIC is at least (unevenly at times) trying to tell a story in 10 parts. Always felt like DIS came up with a great idea for a 2-part episode, and then padded it out to 10. And not in the fun, re-watchable way even if you have to binge the season, but more in that they set up a big galaxy-ending threat in the premier, kinda dick around for 8 episodes while making little progress, and then magically rush to the conclusion int he finale. Most of the middles of the seasons were unnecessary, with stalling, long talks, and misdirection. When held up to light, doesn't feel like the stories were worthy of 10 episodes, and maybe could have at least gotten 2-3 mini arcs into a season like ENT did the final year.
Seasons were also all over the place thematically, timeline wise, and it never really felt like it found a stable footing. Best season was the Pike year, and even that storyline was pretty sloppy. Obvious plus is that it gave us the best spinoff in a while, as SNW is crushing it so far.
Never hated it, and saw every one, but can't say I'll spend much time thinking about it afterwards, or how other shows will interact with what DIS showed us. That it was cancelled after the fact instead of a planned wrap up isn't promising, so while they will end their mission of the season, doesn't look like they're getting a chance to wrap the series. Wonder if they ever got far enough to try and catch up with the Short Trek Calypso, or if that will just always hang out there as something that was going to play off of a finale we never got...
Seasons were also all over the place thematically, timeline wise, and it never really felt like it found a stable footing. Best season was the Pike year, and even that storyline was pretty sloppy. Obvious plus is that it gave us the best spinoff in a while, as SNW is crushing it so far.
Never hated it, and saw every one, but can't say I'll spend much time thinking about it afterwards, or how other shows will interact with what DIS showed us. That it was cancelled after the fact instead of a planned wrap up isn't promising, so while they will end their mission of the season, doesn't look like they're getting a chance to wrap the series. Wonder if they ever got far enough to try and catch up with the Short Trek Calypso, or if that will just always hang out there as something that was going to play off of a finale we never got...
Yes, this is just the nature of storytelling. You have your main characters, and you have your background characters. Sometimes background get more screentime, and sometimes they don't, but it's really Michael, Suru, Stamets, Tilly, etc who the writers serve first. It's not unique to Star Trek.
If it makes you feel any better, they didn't know when they were filming, or they wouldn't have a reshoot. It's based on a fairly new belt-tightening policy by all the platforms, and far from being last minute, they have plenty of time to get it ready for 2024.
On the plus side, they're getting to end it how they want to by adding to it.
It does make me more optimistic that they won't just cut it off at a weird moment. Even Enterprise got to go out on a sentimental note (such as it was).
Could DSC be ending to partially gave money to pay Yeow?
This makes me sad, not just personally, but especially for the people to whom the show gave comfort and who genuinely liked it.
I actively detested Season 1 - it was flaming garbage. However, I came back for S2 (even if I didn't watch it until a long time after it aired), and I quite enjoyed it. With the departure of Pike and Co., I wasn't sure how I would feel about S3, but I was very glad for the creative decision to get Discovery and its somewhat silly and obviously not-in-harmony-with-anything-else spore drive out of the 24th century. Moreover, I think they did a very good job establishing a new universe and yet retaining the spirit and ideals of Star Trek. Whereas S1 had almost nothing to do with Star Trek, was dark and edgy to the point of being almost disgusting, and made laughingstocks of the Klingons, after a return to roots in S2, S3 felt like a Star Trek series. I found the mystery interesting and the end reveal and resolution touching.
S4 was quite similar to S3 for me. It was a little more effective in some ways, and a little less in others, but it was still enjoyable and I'm glad it was available for me to watch.
Five seasons is a pretty good run for a streaming live-action series on broadcast, cable, or streaming. In addition, I haven't seen this point mentioned yet, but since streaming series typically don't produce one series per calendar year, it's actually harder to keep them going for multiple seasons. The cast is aging and becoming more expensive, and actors don't want to be tied up for (say) eight years for five years of work.
Given all this, I wouldn't call Discovery a crowning success, but I wouldn't be online crowing about its failure either. Overall, I quite enjoyed it and I'm glad it was here. I'll look forward to the conclusion in S5.
I actively detested Season 1 - it was flaming garbage. However, I came back for S2 (even if I didn't watch it until a long time after it aired), and I quite enjoyed it. With the departure of Pike and Co., I wasn't sure how I would feel about S3, but I was very glad for the creative decision to get Discovery and its somewhat silly and obviously not-in-harmony-with-anything-else spore drive out of the 24th century. Moreover, I think they did a very good job establishing a new universe and yet retaining the spirit and ideals of Star Trek. Whereas S1 had almost nothing to do with Star Trek, was dark and edgy to the point of being almost disgusting, and made laughingstocks of the Klingons, after a return to roots in S2, S3 felt like a Star Trek series. I found the mystery interesting and the end reveal and resolution touching.
S4 was quite similar to S3 for me. It was a little more effective in some ways, and a little less in others, but it was still enjoyable and I'm glad it was available for me to watch.
Five seasons is a pretty good run for a streaming live-action series on broadcast, cable, or streaming. In addition, I haven't seen this point mentioned yet, but since streaming series typically don't produce one series per calendar year, it's actually harder to keep them going for multiple seasons. The cast is aging and becoming more expensive, and actors don't want to be tied up for (say) eight years for five years of work.
Given all this, I wouldn't call Discovery a crowning success, but I wouldn't be online crowing about its failure either. Overall, I quite enjoyed it and I'm glad it was here. I'll look forward to the conclusion in S5.
Or to never address it. Not really a top priority for me.
So the same as seasons one through four?
Three years (Seasons) was always the plan, but I guess if you don't follow interviews you wouldn't know.
I never left. I cut down the amount of channels I have, but always kept the ones with shows I wanted to watch. Mostly so I could avoid spoilers haha.
I hate cable. Having to pay monthly for a HD cable box + extra fees + more expensive. With streaming I can get exactly what I want each month for about $10 per service. Before streaming, I remember complaints about cable and people saying they just wanted a la carte channels month to month, which streaming basically gave us. Now that we have that, people are saying they want back to cable.
I think that's exactly what the execs at Paramount will conclude.
But I don't think it's correct.
Picard S1-S2 were based on a legacy character and it got very low ratings from fans. Discovery was filled with member-berries and references to old Trek: Spock, Sarek, The Enterprise, Pike, Mudd, The GOF and on and on.
I think the reason Discovery didn't do well is because it's not a very good show.
Season 3 of PIcard proves that quite well. Season 2 of SNW also proves that out.
I don't think it's correct but I am not a part of the majority so cannot say one way or the other.
Still got 5 seasons, that's pretty good for a streaming show.
I'm not arguing that Michael always "saves the day" but that she's still the POV character for almost all of the episodes. There's a clear difference in fiction between the protagonist and the POV (like in Sherlock Holmes, Watson is the POV character) but we typically see stories framed from her perspective even when others play a role in the solutions.
It's Discovery. Everything will be spinned in to "not well." It only got "5 Seasons" so it's is the worst, the fans hated it and no one will ever remember it like TOS or TNG.
At this point in time it's hard for me to take any fans who repeat this line seriously. You're telling me that a show that lasted five seasons somehow is not meaningful in any way to any one? It had no fans, no supporters, no love from the base but it just existed? Fine, if that's what cognitive dissonance you need then go for it.
I'm tired, just tired, of the fan short term memory and the need to find fault.
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