I enjoy Supergirl a lot. It's sort of a wannabe-BVTS, and it's an enjoyable harmless way to kill an hour.Just wait until the Star Trek/Supergirl crossover
I wouldn't pay to watch it, though.
Discovery and "The Orville" Comparisons
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I wouldn't pay to watch it, though.
I watch them both now... and they both are good. Though Star Trek Discovery is Star Trek canon so I am more biased to like it, The Orville does have it's merits, namely being able to play with the comedy aspect of Sci-Fi. Star Trek Discovery has had many sceptics, but it is actually great as the diversity of it's cast not only gives minorities a chance on screen, but it also represents how Starfleet has diverse officers.
The character development has so much potentially, and they are easily relatable. As always the moral dilemma is a key component in Star Trek and hence it is nice to see that we finally get another Star Trek Show which was can enjoy on a weekly basis
The character development has so much potentially, and they are easily relatable. As always the moral dilemma is a key component in Star Trek and hence it is nice to see that we finally get another Star Trek Show which was can enjoy on a weekly basis
How about a D7?
Are those worldwide Discovery figures against US-only figures for everything else?
I've been watching (and generally liking) both, but I think comparing the two is problematic.
The Orville tells a complete story every episode, so it is much easier to asses. DSC is telling an unfolding story, so it is a lot harder to judge. It's problematic when we have only seen part of the narrative and characters are still early in their respective arcs.
It's really unprecedented for a trek series. We had very few story arcs (I can think of the ending of DS9 and ENT season 3), and even then the characters were already well established and most episodes were more self contained then what we got so far on DSC.
The Orville, on the other hand, copy pasts the TNG ear formula, so it has a much lower barrier to overcome with trek fans. It also doesn't have all the baggage that comes from being a trek show.
The Orville tells a complete story every episode, so it is much easier to asses. DSC is telling an unfolding story, so it is a lot harder to judge. It's problematic when we have only seen part of the narrative and characters are still early in their respective arcs.
It's really unprecedented for a trek series. We had very few story arcs (I can think of the ending of DS9 and ENT season 3), and even then the characters were already well established and most episodes were more self contained then what we got so far on DSC.
The Orville, on the other hand, copy pasts the TNG ear formula, so it has a much lower barrier to overcome with trek fans. It also doesn't have all the baggage that comes from being a trek show.
If those are worldwide figures for Discovery, then I couldn't find US only. The rest are for the US, though. I had remembered reading that Discovery 6.something million viewers when it premiered, but I couldn't find anything with that figure either.
Wouldn't International ratings only be obtainable through Netflix?
I asked because of the label you gave for DSC, naming Netflix International.
Ditto, I can compare STD to the Netflix marvel shows or chunks of DS9,
Orville compares more to TNG or X-Files or something like that.
Oh, I was just putting the studio/network for each series. I have a problem withe putting too much information in my comments.
I will pass, as it would not be well written.Just wait until the Star Trek/Supergirl crossover
Try a Discovery/Orville crossover?
I think MacFarlane walking around the Discovery making Boner jokes would be pretty funny.
Absolute nonsense.
Yeah, I don't think CBS would be able to Sue.....The similarities to Trek are pretty Vague.....(They don't own the rights to all "crew on a ship exploring space" stories, the Aliens are different, the Vocabulary is different, the design is different enough, AND they aren't using Transporter like Tech. which is a fairly unique to Trek thing) So I think Fox could easily get away with, "It's" different enough, and Fox can't control how fans perceive the Shows, and if they really needed to in a court battle they could point out that positive fan reactions have stemmed from how DIFFERENT their show is from the current Trek.
They'd be fools to try.
MacFarlane is, and rightfully so, looked at as an everyman. In my experience Orville and Disco have a big grey area of fans, but Disco skates on thinner ice. It's a more serious show, with a more serious point with more serious writing and more serious expectations. Orville is essentially a very well done joke. It's lighter, it's easier and simple good humor.
As Roger Rabbit has taught us, humor is very endearing. Suing MacFarlane and Fox would just make people hate Discovery
There is actually an active The Orville Subreddit. Quite impressive for a new show, which might not even have aired outside of the USA yet.
It really does ride on the very finest of lines as far as lawsuits go. It's kind of like this phenomenon.
This is a really bad example, because tons of movies and series told stories with the Snow Queen before Frozen. Frozen didn't come up with the idea.
And no one is complaining and bringing up lawsuits, when it comes to CSI and NCIS or countless other crime series, which are all kind of the same. There are tons of detective series, which are super similar. The same is true for numerous hospital or lawyer series. So if they are all fine and no one brings up legal actions, why do it with similar science fiction series?
Jesus sometimes I say that to Lorca at my TV by the end of an episode.
And I can't help but here Macfarlane there
. I'd also like to hear some of the other characters opinions of each other.(I am enjoying both shows though)
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