Yes, that certainly is a reasonable interpretation. But it still wouldn't be about the well being of individual microbes, but the ecosystem as whole. I am sure the biolfilters in transporters routinely murder countless microbes.
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Spock said genesis would wipe away any existing life, the Genesis wave does seem to vapourise the crust of the planet. Starfleet wanted a lifeless body for ethical reasons. As even microbial life could someday become something else.
Really don't think that was the "reason."
TNG
Synthetic life forms are not property. You're talking about creating whole generations of disposable people. Our charter is to seek out new life, well there it sits!
ALSO TNG:
Sorry Data, we can't stop them taking away your daughter because she's just an object and not a real person. Tough shit.
VOY
The EMH Mark 1 sucks. Who cares if it's sentient or not, it's just a hologram, let's turn it on and off whenever we like, erase it's memory without its knowledge, and send it to work in the mines.
Synthetic life forms are not property. You're talking about creating whole generations of disposable people. Our charter is to seek out new life, well there it sits!
ALSO TNG:
Sorry Data, we can't stop them taking away your daughter because she's just an object and not a real person. Tough shit.
VOY
The EMH Mark 1 sucks. Who cares if it's sentient or not, it's just a hologram, let's turn it on and off whenever we like, erase it's memory without its knowledge, and send it to work in the mines.
Nothing says the the finding of one JAG officer is binding on the Federation-at-large. I'm sure there were appeals afterward.
Built with Starfleet tech by a Starfleet officer. I remember a clause from a couple of my jobs that stated what was created on company property was owned by the company.
Were they all sentient? I had the distinct feeling that the Doctor was special because he was pushed beyond his programming.
That the Doc was pushed beyond his programming was situational to his suddenly being the only medic aboard and therefore having to take responsibility, which led to personal growth. Any EMH could in theory develop the same way, but the implications seem to be that Starfleet uses them (even the later EMH's) as conveniences to be switched on and off rather than individuals with individual rights.
I take the point that until contact with Voyager possibly noone in the Federation had left an EMH switched on long enough to see it develop. But even it's creator seems not to have cared that he was creating life, or been unaware of it, when one would imagine the myriad of legal ramifications surrounding Soong's work would have at least set a precedent. Zimmerman can't have been unaware of these questions.
I take the point that until contact with Voyager possibly noone in the Federation had left an EMH switched on long enough to see it develop. But even it's creator seems not to have cared that he was creating life, or been unaware of it, when one would imagine the myriad of legal ramifications surrounding Soong's work would have at least set a precedent. Zimmerman can't have been unaware of these questions.
IIRC, the Lal issue was framed not in terms of her being considered property, but in terms of the authorities coming along and asserting that Data wasn't a suitable parent for his own child.
Been a while since I've seen "The Offspring", but I'm pretty sure you are right.
"First Contact" (the movie):
If you're a "red shirt", the borg will assimilate you the first chance they get.
If you're "Picard and guest" you can just walk through them without fear, "as long as you don't appear threatening"...
Somehow a "red shirt" shouting in terror is more threatening than Lily shouting in terror.
Go figure!
If you're a "red shirt", the borg will assimilate you the first chance they get.
If you're "Picard and guest" you can just walk through them without fear, "as long as you don't appear threatening"...
Somehow a "red shirt" shouting in terror is more threatening than Lily shouting in terror.
Go figure!
The desired test planet might have had other requirements in addition to being lifeless. An orbit in the Goldilocks zone, nothing a billion miles out from it's sun. No other planets in the system with intelligent life, prime directive consideration. A pre-existing strong magnetic field, the genesis device probably wouldn't create one.
Those redshirts were likely defending the ship, with weapons. Going back to the earliest appearances of the Borg, they don't fuck with you unless there is a reason to fuck with you.
You forget about the two that we see just looking off screen and not doing anything else and then yelling in fear ( a man and a couple of minutes later a woman).
I am not sure about all that. The genesis device seems able to create different seasons at the same time on nearby patches of the planet very fast as if the sun was left out of the equation. It takes months for our Earth to change from winter conditions to summer conditions because we're dependant on the Sun but on the Genesis planet, it takes only hours!!!
That was the protomatter.
At that point, I think, the Borg didn't want to get caught. It's also possible that Mr. Porter and his friend did something off screen that the Borg deemed a threat.
Also, of course, they could've been on a preliminary "assimilate 60 crew" mission to pump up their numbers after beaming off the sphere. The Borg did have roving bands of people-assimilators that needed to be avoided (as opposed to ship-assimilators who could just be ignored).
Ben Finney makes a mistake at work which is caught by his friend Jim, his career is ruined. (TOS: "Court Martial")
Leonard McCoy somehow misses the fact a onboard disease is deadly to Vulcans, Spock nearly dies but there are no consequences whatsoever. (TAS: "Pirates of Orion")
This really comes across as "Kirk takes better care of some friends than others"
Leonard McCoy somehow misses the fact a onboard disease is deadly to Vulcans, Spock nearly dies but there are no consequences whatsoever. (TAS: "Pirates of Orion")
This really comes across as "Kirk takes better care of some friends than others"
Eh... not really.
Dealing with exotic xeno-diseases is always going to be a dicey proposition, no matter how good the doctor is. You can't go around axing doctors anytime they don't perfectly understand something instantly. Especially when they ultimately did save the patient's life.
Meanwhile, Finney failed to follow basic safety procedures that everyone is required to know and follow and the mistake he made supposedly could have destroyed the entire ship if it had been discovered five minutes later.
Dealing with exotic xeno-diseases is always going to be a dicey proposition, no matter how good the doctor is. You can't go around axing doctors anytime they don't perfectly understand something instantly. Especially when they ultimately did save the patient's life.
Meanwhile, Finney failed to follow basic safety procedures that everyone is required to know and follow and the mistake he made supposedly could have destroyed the entire ship if it had been discovered five minutes later.
The Borg didn't want them to report in, that was the threat to the Borg.
In that case, the threat would be the non-assimilation of Picard who's admittedly the most dangerous human on board to the borg (if they're capable of such anticipation as you think they are then they would definitely assimilate Picard as soon as he's within reach).
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