Defiant Deck Plans?

Discussion in 'Trek Tech' started by glock27, Jan 28, 2011.

  1. Bill Morris

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    More on deck 3. The warhead has two antideuterium pods that get smashed into deuterium fuel tanks upon high-impulse impact.

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  2. Saquist

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    I love it but what is the Gold brown loop around the antimatter and shuttle bay? Is that the turbolift?
     
  3. SicOne

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    This is perhaps a question with no good answer, but...why are the Defiant's warp nacelles angled instead of straight, like every other Trek ship we've seen?

    Is there an in-universe answer? An art department answer? Anything?
     
  4. Herkimer Jitty

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    Zefram Cochrane's Phoenix had angled nacelles.
     
  5. Saquist

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    I'm not sure.
    We've never seen a Warp field display for the hull geometry. But I think it would weakene at the bow shock by spreading the poles apart.

    No I don't think so.
    Those were the pylons But we know that Defiant has problem with the forward bow since they have to use lots of SIF power to stabilize the ship. I don't think it really makes a difference because they're not spread apart
    to angle where the field could break.

    It seems to me it was just done to keep the Engines tucked out of site since the ships primary offense is a forward attack.
     
  6. Bill Morris

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    That's labeled TURBOSHAFT (lower left). It's nearly the same as in the tech manual, which shows it is red.

    It does bother me that the nacelles are angled. It's okay for the Bussard collectors, but there is a temptation there to put the coils in straight within those angled nacelles.
     
  7. Herkimer Jitty

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    Why do they NEED to be straight? No dialogue or semi-canon source indicates how the angle of the nacelles is relevant, nor is it mentioned in the ever-sacred Roddenberry's Rules.

    I call shenanigans.
     
  8. Saquist

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    In the book Dreams of the Ravens written by Diane Duane the Enterprise is rammed by an alien ship that requested aid. The collision twist the port pylon and skewers the alignment.

    Scotty says "we can do warp if you want to go circles"

    I think the only thing that really matters is symmetry.
     
  9. Crazy Eddie

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    ^ Dude, I just finished reading that book last night!

    FREAKY!
     
  10. Bill Morris

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    The warp coils of the Ferengi D'Kora class come to mind, laid out along a curved path.
     
  11. Saquist

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    Sir, that is one of my ...NAY...MY MOST FAVORITE TMP book of ALL Time! Read it 4 times at least.

    Dreadnought and Battlestations are good ones too.
     
  12. Crazy Eddie

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    Never read Battlestations. Think I'll borrow it from the Family Library.
     
  13. Saquist

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    That's another one, symmetrical yet non parallel.
     
  14. Timo

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    Cardassians also seem to prefer warp engines where the glowy bits don't align in parallel lines.

    Fun fan factoid: the backstage books suggest the ship has honking big warp coils relative to the overall size, rather than series of smaller ones, while certain fan sources for some reason choose to give the same engine type to Defiant and Norway classes ("LF-40") - an odd but reasonable proposition because the nacelles of the latter have the right diameter for housing coils that fit inside the cowlings of the former. There'd simply be fewer of them (four or five, depending on which MSDs you believe in - and all of them could be right if the number was altered between the early prototype flights and later operations, and some software was left unupgraded).

    Timo Saloniemi
     
  15. Bill Morris

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    I guess I'm okay with making the coils like this:

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  16. SicOne

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    ^ That looks better, warp coil-wise, than the two rows of smaller coils per nacelle. Something about that just appeals to my sense of aesthetics.
     
  17. Saquist

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    It does!
     
  18. Bill Morris

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    A few tweaks and a little progress, still not done:

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  19. Mytran

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    This is looking very nice! Count me in for the look of the shorter, fatter warp coils. They are much more in line with the character of the Defiant
     
  20. Bill Morris

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