None of this really means anything.
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None of this really means anything.

How so?
The whole idea of a mixed crew made up of former adversaries, with the Maquis crew members very much not your typical by-the-book Starfleet types and holding grudges against Starfleet, got swept under the rug very quickly, to be touched on maybe once in a blue moon over the course of the series. The crew was one big happy family way too quickly.
Similarly, the idea that Voyager, cut off from Starfleet's resources, was in dire straits when it came to repairs, supplies, et cetera, quickly got downplayed as well, the better to recapture to cozy, congenial atmosphere of TNG? The ship seldom seemed to be in worse shape than Picard's Enterprise, there seemed to be an infinite number of shuttles, and so on. It was all very comfortable.
At the time, it certainly seemed as though Voyager was leaning away from its own distinguishing characteristics -- a ship lost in space, a divided crew forced to work together despite the bad blood between them -- in a bid to recapture TNG's popularity.
And to perhaps lure back fans who found DS9 too radical a change for them?
I'm not sure even Voyager betrayed its premise that quickly.Regarding Enterprise, I have not watched a great deal of it. However, I feel like if they wanted to do a prequel, they should have really done a prequel. Instead, we started out immediately with the temporal cold war. And then they felt the necessity to drag in everyone from the Borg to the Ferengi.I agree with everything you said there about Voyager, like to a T.
The original comment had been about Enterprise, and so the claim is quite a bit more of a head-scratcher for me than it would have been in the case of Voyager, especially if the premise got betrayed in the very first episode!I'm not sure even Voyager betrayed its premise that quickly.
Well, if I had to sum it up in one sentence, let's start with "4 days from Earth to the Klingon Empire in a Warp 5 ship."I didn't ask you to type a novel. I was curious to know what you brought up, but not enough to go on a wild goose chase or scavenger hunt to find the answer!![]()
Regarding Enterprise, I have not watched a great deal of it. However, I feel like if they wanted to do a prequel, they should have really done a prequel. Instead, we started out immediately with the temporal cold war. And then they felt the necessity to drag in everyone from the Borg to the Ferengi.

What should be decanonized?
It’s all canon.Neither. It is more fun that way.
Phase(r) pistols. PHOTONic torpedoes. Ship had a hull, warp nacelles, Vulcan science officer. Reported to Starfleet Command. Planets were as close or as far as the plot dictated so travel times felt the same. Duras was a villain. Section 31.
but its so conveniently sized and effectiveDcanonize the phaser cannon
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Polarizing fandom.Also, polarizing the hull=shields.
Polarizing fandom.
Wait, what are we talking about again?
Excuse? I don't need an excuse! I will bitch about Star Trek all day long just because, dammit!A paper-thin excuse to bitch about what we don't like about Star Trek. Get with the program, dude.

The same Dauntless which was stated in dialogue to have quantum slipstream. Plus Borg transwarp conduits were accessed quite a bit throughout Prodigy.Come Prodigy, and speeds are closer to TOS level again with going to the Delta quadrant no longer seemingly a problem for the USS Dauntless.
Because audiences demand the familiar.Anytime Trek tries to do a prequel, they are afraid to truly commit to that premise.
How do we know that in the Trek world? No one has ever taken the chance to try something different with a prequel. I think if they had done a good Captain Pike show without all the future knowledge stuff and without all the characters from TOS (except Spock, of course), audiences would have reacted just fine. And, honestly, I think just about everybody back in the day rolled their eyes at "No, we don't have phasers, but we have phase pistols!"Because audiences demand the familiar.
How do we know that in the Trek world? No one has ever taken the chance to try something different with a prequel. I think if they had done a good Captain Pike show without all the future knowledge stuff and without all the characters from TOS (except Spock, of course), audiences would have reacted just fine.
How do we know that in the Trek world? No one has ever taken the chance to try something different with a prequel. I think if they had done a good Captain Pike show without all the future knowledge stuff and without all the characters from TOS (except Spock, of course), audiences would have reacted just fine. And, honestly, I think just about everybody back in the day rolled their eyes at "No, we don't have phasers, but we have phase pistols!"
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