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Spoilers DC's Legends of Tomorrow - Season 2

I liked the formula Enterprise used in its fourth season. Arcs 2 or 3 episodes long, with the occassional stand-alone episode. Make the story only as long as it needs to be.

Yeah, that was really novel and effective. I wish more shows would use that format.
 
I have long thought the ENT season 4 arc model would be effective with more series. Zoom last season on The Flash is a perfect example. The mystery of who his real identity was not strong enough for a whole season. Plus the longer they delayed the reveal of a real Jay Garrick they deflated the excitement of first seeing his helmet at the end of season 1. It would have been nice if that scene in my Avatar had happened in the middle of season 2.

I assume the writers feel they need more time to develop their ideas. But actually what often happens is the ideas a stretched to thin. Zoom really got played out by the end and stripped of any mystery was not threatening any more. Better to perhaps end a villains run of episodes a little early so there is demand to see them again later on. Than wear out their welcome.
 
I think part of the problem is that they try to tie to many of the episodes into the arc. I think it could also work if they spread out the arc over a handfull of episodes throughout the season, instead of every single episode. So they could give us two or three arc episodes, then two or three standalones, then more arc episodes, repeated until the end of the season. So kind of like what you guys are talking about with Enterprise Season 4, but do it as one arc in bits and pieces rather than small arcs.
Looking back over the Season 2 episodes, I see there were more standlones than I originally thought, but even most of them still had elements tying them back into the Zoom/Jay/Earth-2 storyline.
 
Legends currently have only a 13 episode second season order, which could grow should the show do better.

Apparently last season's ratings were a bit of a disappointment.
 
Nah, the casting was fi....

No wait, "Vandal Savage."

Okay, the casting was fine except for the horrible excuse for a main villain. But the team itself was really good. The writing... less so.
 
^ You surely gotta add Loitz to that list.

Oh, I also forgot the awfulness of Carter's actor. And Kendra was.... well, not sure if it was her or the writing.
 
They've acknowledged they've "made some missteps" with season 1, so I'm hopeful they'll turn it around, it'd be a shame to lose its uniquely bonkers flavour of superhero TV.
 
I really, really did not care for the portrayal of Vandal Savage. I wasn't impressed with the Hawks, either. Everyone else was good. The biggest problem with the first season is dealing with a single villain who you run into every other episode yet never manage to kill or defeat, despite the fact that he doesn't really have any powers aside from immortality. He's not a physical threat to a team of six super-powered heroes.
 
They killed him plenty, he just had the super power to regenerate from a drop of blood the moment the CSI went home.

(Yes, that's Lobo, yes, I know his blood regeneration is immediate, and I know he neutered himself. Shh! This isn't about Lobo.)
 
As longtime readers may recall, my casting comment is directed partly at Savage (who was awful) and partly at Rip (who was just mediocre--a more charismatic lead would have done wonders to help sell the premise).
 
Arthur is eventually going to talk Karen Gillian into doing a few episodes, and when they kiss on Screen as Rip and... You know who, then it's all going to be worth it.
 
I thought Rip was great, and not just because I'm inclined to like Arthur Darvill anyway. Honestly, I liked the Legends members a lot, and I didn't think Hawkman was as terrible as other people think. Vandal Savage was probably the only casting I didn't like, but to be fair the writing for him (and the stories around him) was so mediocre I don't think any actor could have done the part well.
 
I'm fine with the casting. All of the shows have a mix of quality when it comes to the actors.

The writing was just awful for me. The ONLY reason I kept tuning in was because it was in the same universe as two other shows I liked and it was damned cool seeing the team go into action. It was fun "super hero" stuff.

But when you're going to do a time travel story, you kind of need to have your time travel rules established before you begin and not make them up as you go along.
 
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The problem here, for me, was that they were such key characters. The Hawks, too, who were also "bad" and "mediocre".
 
I never understood Hawkman till Geoff Johns explained it.

It's like he's got a bowling ball on a stick and he's going to hit you in the face with it until you're dead.
 
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