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Gail Simone's blog post indicates that theory won't be borne out:

This is classic Barbara as she was originally conceived, with a few big surprises. It’s a bit of a shock, to be sure, but we’re doing everything we can to be respectful to this character’s amazing legacy, while presenting something thrilling that a generation of comics readers will be experiencing for the first time…

…Barbara Gordon leaping, fighting, and swinging over Gotham. Now, when citizens of that city look up, they are going to see BATGIRL.

Mad respect for Simone, but how is Barbara Gordon any more Batgirl than Stephanie Brown (or Cassie Cain for that matter)?

She's the one people sorta remember.
 
If they were going to do that, 52 titles is way too many. Superman ain't special when 51 other dudes show up at the same time.
There are a number of editorial strategies to deal with that, though. You wouldn't necessarily have to start the whole line from Year One.
I suppose that's true, although personally I can't imagine anyone currently working in comics who could resist the urge, or even be allowed to resist the urge, to tell Superman's origin one more bruised and bleeding time. (Bring back the birth matrix? No, I can't work up the enthusiasm.)

Grant Morrison did it the best, but he still gave it a page.

Kestrel said:
Mad respect for Simone, but how is Barbara Gordon any more Batgirl than Stephanie Brown (or Cassie Cain for that matter)?

Or, in any event, more interesting than Kate Kane? I mean, if I see two books which are basically about nothing more than redheads punching weirdos, I'm gonna choose the one with the more interesting protagonist (although I'd be likely to skip both if one didn't promise capital-A Art).

I wonder who's drawing Batgirl, anyway (obviously not Adam Hughes)? Simone is pretty regularly betrayed by lackluster art. She's up there with Morrison on that score.
 
I wonder who's drawing Batgirl, anyway?
Ardian Syaf and Vicente Cifuentes.
I'm not familiar with the gentleman, but he seems reasonably okay based on a cursory image search.
For an example of Syaf's work on a street vigilante character not unlike the Huntress, look for a mini-series he did for Dabel Brothers in 2008, C.E. Murphy's Take a Chance.

Also, he did some Gotham City work in Blackest Night: Batman, and he did a good job with the Bat characters.

I think he'll be fine.
 
Daniel and Finch didn't impress me as writers, Daniels being almost unreadable. So I wount be jumping on their Bat titles post Flashpoint. Also, I love Hawkman... but With Daniel writing, I'll have to pass.
 
^ That's an easy answer. She's the Silver Age Batgirl. Once again the clues to the relaunch can be uncovered if you are aware that Johns and DiDio are huge Silver Age fans. I can't stress that enough.

Lots more people read comic books in those days.

Mad respect for Simone, but how is Barbara Gordon any more Batgirl than Stephanie Brown (or Cassie Cain for that matter)?

She's the one people sorta remember.

Yup.
 
I apologize if this has been brought up before...do we know what's happening to Steph? I mean in regards to her future? I assume the assumption is that she'll be killed off or something.
 
No, we don't. But we don't know what's happening to Tim, either, unless I've missed something today. Of the current and former Robins, we only know what's up with Dick (Nightwing), Jason (Red Hood), and Damian (Robin).
 
^ Yeah I'm update to date on the rest of the Bat-Family books. Just Steph, and Tim, and I guess Cassie, although I guess that if Batman Inc is continuing Cassie could continue in her new role. Wouldn't it be mind blowing if it was revealed that
Tim
was Leviathan?
 
One of my favorite comic book columninst/bloggers is a lady named Jill Pantozzi, who writes for Newsarama. She is a natural redhead who is confined to a wheelchair, so as you may imagine, she felt a special kinship with Barbara Gordon as Oracle.

I had a feeling that she wouldn't take the news about Babs donning the cape again well.
There are some good points in that blog. I can understand how someone in her situation would view this that way. Indeed, I think she makes a good point about Babs as a character.

I'm of two minds on this right now. My instinct actually tracks a lot with Jill's in her blog post. It's not just about Oracle, it's what the character symbolizes in terms of strength over adversity. Still, another part of me is interested to see if Babs becomes the "Bagirl" division of "Batman Inc.", where she is "Batgirl Prime" while Cass is "Hong Kong Batgirl" and Steph temporarily becomes "UK Batgirl" you know? It could be good, it could be bad. Time will tell.

I'm really trying to be open minded about all this, but it still goes against the grain for me personally.
 
No, we don't. But we don't know what's happening to Tim, either, unless I've missed something today. Of the current and former Robins, we only know what's up with Dick (Nightwing), Jason (Red Hood), and Damian (Robin).

Tim is going to be a stuffed trophy in the Batcave like Jason before him. It's his death thats going to be the impetus for Dick returning as a darker Nightwing. The fact that Tim doesn't have his own book while even Jason Todd has one leans heavily towards the death option.
 
I apologize if this has been brought up before...do we know what's happening to Steph? I mean in regards to her future? I assume the assumption is that she'll be killed off or something.
Connor Hawke's gonna never have existed, isn't he?

(Although the last stuff they did with him was pretty dumb and seemed mainly to be a way to push him further out of the already quite dim Green Arrow spotlight).
 
^ That's a good question. They've not done that much with Connor lately have they?


Awww....I liked my Leviathan suggestion. It's better than just assuming it's Ra's.
 
^ That's a good question. They've not done that much with Connor lately have they?

He yelled at Ollie. That's pretty cool, although out of character. Granted, I haven't followed Connor for years, inasmuch as he's only been a guest star and unwanted baby for that time period.

You know, I know I've said this before, but all the Silver Age guys--I liked them before they came back to life.

Awww....I liked my Leviathan suggestion. It's better than just assuming it's Ra's.
Why would Tim be evil? Jason Todd sort of makes sense. If I got beaten to death with a crowbar, and punched back to life, I'd be mad too.

Is there something I've missed? I know he doesn't like Damian, but (from an in-universe perspective) that's the correct attitude to take.

Turtletrekker said:
One of my favorite comic book columninst/bloggers is a lady named Jill Pantozzi, who writes for Newsarama. She is a natural redhead who is confined to a wheelchair, so as you may imagine, she felt a special kinship with Barbara Gordon as Oracle.

I had a feeling that she wouldn't take the news about Babs donning the cape again well.

You know, I knew this would make me sad, but it also makes me mad. Meet the new DC: just as hateful as the old DC.
 
The reason why I thought about Tim goes back to Fabian Niceza (sp?)'s first Red Robin arc where he had Ra's testing Tim and had Talia go after him. Tim is thought of as a brilliant detective and master computer hacker. He'd be a perfect subject for the Demon's Head to attempt to break. I'm not saying it will happen...in fact I'm really stretching. Otherwise aside from Ra's I've no idea who Leviathan could be.
 
LOL. Not a bad suggestion. If Leviathan is supposed to be that tall bloke in the brim hat from Batman, Inc #6 my suggestion of Tim gets tossed out. I'm assuming it's Ra's but I digress and taking the thread off topic lol.
 
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