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DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond

JD said:
So am I the only person here who actually liked Justice League?
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No, I liked it, too. Still do, despite its faults. I've been reading comic books since 1965, and I'm still amazed and thrilled by the number of live action movies we've gotten. For me, it was a very long wait, and seeing some of my favorite characters brought to life (even if it's not exactly the way I'd hoped) makes me very, very happy.
 
Christopher said:
That's presumably why the movie chose Luthor as the featured villain, and why it presented him as, supposedly, already established as a feared and powerful master criminal. But then it undermined its own definition of the character by portraying him as a campy goofball whose entire criminal organization consisted of two dimwits. Even the lamest Batman '66 villain could wrangle a bigger gang than that, and give them personalized team uniforms to boot.
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I always thought that the fact that Luthor is essentially an ordinary human being and could be put in regular clothes (a real money saver) was a factor as well in their choice as well. Certainly in later incarnations like Lois & Clark.
 
Captaindemotion said:
Zoe Kravitz is the latest actress to straddle two comic universes (but cats are good at balancing)... https://variety.com/2019/film/news/the-batman-zoe-kravitz-catwoman-1203302757/
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Interesting... She's already played Catwoman, in The Lego Batman Movie. That makes her one of the few people to start out playing a role in animation and then play it in live action. One example is Jeremy Ratchford, who played Banshee in the '90s X-Men animated series and then in the live-action Generation X pilot movie. And of course Kevin Conroy is about to join the club in Crisis on Infinite Earths.

By straddling two universes, I take it you're referring to her role in X-Men: First Class, although she also voiced Mary Jane in Into the Spider-Verse.
 
I didn't realize she was The LEGO Batman Movie's Catwoman, that's pretty cool.
I like her, so I'm pretty happy with her casting. At least this time if people have a problem with her race, we can just point to playing Eartha Kitt Catwoman before her.
 
JD said:
At least this time if people have a problem with her race, we can just point to playing Eartha Kitt Catwoman before her.
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Plus Halle Berry, though that was a different character from Selina Kyle, plus the movie was awful. However, the two most recent animated incarnations besides Lego Batman have been played by Cree Summer (in the second version of DC Super Hero Girls, as an Eartha Kitt impression) and Sanaa Lathan (in the upcoming Harley Quinn). So black Catwomen seem to be the new normal now.

For what it's worth, I think Kravitz looks kind of like the version of Selina from Batman: Year One, who was depicted in an ethnically ambiguous way so (IIRC) there's been debate over whether she was meant to be black there.
 
Christopher said:
Interesting... She's already played Catwoman, in The Lego Batman Movie.

By straddling two universes, I take it you're referring to her role in X-Men: First Class, although she also voiced Mary Jane in Into the Spider-Verse.
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Yes, I meant X-Men; I watched Into the Spider-Verse over the weekend but didn't look at the credits. I'd totally forgotten that she was Lego Catwoman.
 
^That too, but the Eartha Kitt thing is an actual real counter and I prefer to go that route whenever possible.
 
Christopher said:
Interesting... She's already played Catwoman, in The Lego Batman Movie. That makes her one of the few people to start out playing a role in animation and then play it in live action. One example is Jeremy Ratchford, who played Banshee in the '90s X-Men animated series and then in the live-action Generation X pilot movie. And of course Kevin Conroy is about to join the club in Crisis on Infinite Earths.

By straddling two universes, I take it you're referring to her role in X-Men: First Class, although she also voiced Mary Jane in Into the Spider-Verse.
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Reminds me, Ralph Fiennes expressed interest in playing live-action Alfred a while ago.
 
Other examples of actors reprising their animation roles in live action include Daran Norris (Timmy Turner's Dad, The Fairly Oddparents) and Patton Oswalt (Dr. Dementor, Kim Possible). Although since those are essentially continuations/revivals from the original creators, it doesn't feel like it counts as much as when it happens in two independent projects.
 
Rewatched TDK and I still don't get the gushing, I do see some good parts (it is good but not very overall) but also a lot of bad ...

Ledger as the Joker was interesting but too inauthentic and obviously contradictory, the latter had an element of him actually being crazy but that was undercut by that it also seemed that too many of his lines were meant-to-be-catchphrases and/or seem profound.

Bale as Batman, early on, was better than I remembered or gave credit for but that just makes it more disappointing that he's sidelined way too much later.

The themes were too direct and basic and pretentious and the writing generally also just too repetitive.
 
^ I enjoyed The Dark Knight Rises more. Bigger, more comic-bookey, with some affecting emotional beats involving Alfred and a few good laughs courtesy of Hathaway's terrific Catwoman.
 
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