DC Cinematic Universe ( The James Gunn era)

[Mudd]

I love the new suit.

I'm an old fan. It's been said that Wayne Boring's barrel-waisted Superman was modeled after the performing strongmen of traveling carnivals. Modern superheroes are swipes from bodybuilders, whose practices are entirely directed at appearance.

 

[Kai "the spy"]

I think the more defined muscular superhero physique started in the 1970s with Neal Adams, John Buscema and similar artists, though then it wasn't as much about size. I think Bruce Lee's physique might have been a big influence back then.

 

[Christopher]

I think the more defined muscular superhero physique started in the 1970s with Neal Adams, John Buscema and similar artists, though then it wasn't as much about size. I think Bruce Lee's physique might have been a big influence back then.

Yeah, but that was a more reasonable, leaner muscularity, rather than the exaggeratedly bodybuilderish physiques that became trendy in the '90s, even for characters that should've had different physiques, like Spider-Man (who should be built like an acrobat) or the Flash (a runner, obviously).

 

[The Realist]

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[TREK_GOD_1]

I think the more defined muscular superhero physique started in the 1970s with Neal Adams, John Buscema and similar artists, though then it wasn't as much about size. I think Bruce Lee's physique might have been a big influence back then.

Definition is what readers and artists wanted; the "strength" visual of the early 20th century circus strongman / barrel-chested look had been replaced in real life with popular bodybuilders (of various sizes) of the 1950s-forward and bodybuilding actors such as Steve Reeves in his various "sword and sandal" movies--forms that became enormously influential in fantasy art including, but not limited to comic book art.

You mentioned Adams and Buscema, but they, along with Romita, Colan, Kane, Giordano, et al., began adding more defined physiques in the 1960s, which is why there was such a stark, artistically appealing contrast when artists such as Buscema took over The Avengers comic from Heck, when Adams woud create covers for the various Superman-related titles, or Steranko's brief run on Captain America following Kirby. They were among those pointing the way for the new standards, which were embraced by the changing readership of 60s-forward comics..

 

[Mudd]

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[The Realist]

There will also be “plenty of Williams tones.”

 

[StarTrek1701]

Is there a dedicated box-office prediction thread anywhere on this site?
I am posting it here but if the mods want to transfer it somewhere more proper please feel free to do so.

SUPERMAN predicted to open with $156 - 175 million during its domestic opening weekend.

Analysts have started their predictions for the opening weekend of Superman, and it's a lot more than most would've expected for the Man of Steel's rebirth.

comicbookmovie.com

 

[Mudd]

 

[Mudd]

 

[Mudd]

From The Hollywood Reporter:

The movie had three days of picks up in Atlanta but no major reshoots. John Murphy started as the composer, providing the John Williams-inspired electric guitar riff, and David Fleming was brought in as an additional composer early on this year. Both of their music will be in the movie, as well as plenty of Williams tones.

And there have been a few test screenings. “I’m no defender of Gunn, but none of this is unusual,” says one source with knowledge of the inner workings of DC. “It’s part of honing of the movie. Any movie.”

Another person close to the production echoed the sentiment. “Gunn absolutely tests, he absolutely tinkers. He’s not one of those directors who can’t take suggestions," this person says.

Studio sources say that Gunn is due to deliver a final and locked movie next Friday. That’s five weeks before its July 11 release date and a sign of studio satisfaction.

 

[Mudd]

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[JD]

So, you are in a position to determine who is a "real" Superman fan and in what numbers the mythical number of fans exist? This assumes what you think is "acting like Superman" is correct for this phantom majority. I suggest a "real Superman fan" would be very familiar with his long comic book history to the degree where your comment would not make sense...and it does not..

Amusing how you have complained about others "speaking for others" as if their opinion is the universal default, yet you hypocritically do the same when it suits you, and its not the first time, either.



So you do.

I have literally seen dozens or even hundreds of people expressing the kind of opinions about Superman that I have, and I have only seen you and maybe one or two other people who express the kind of opinions that you have. So I'm basing what I'm saying on the clear evidence that I have seen.

Dude, I'm usually quite in the same ball park with your opinions, but telling someone they are not a real fan is not cool.

OK, I apologize for the real fans comment, I should have said fans of a traditional Superman. I guess it just seems kind of strange to me to see a person who says they're a fan of a character who seems to hate everything that makes that character who they are in most versions.

Yeah, but that was a more reasonable, leaner muscularity, rather than the exaggeratedly bodybuilderish physiques that became trendy in the '90s, even for characters that should've had different physiques, like Spider-Man (who should be built like an acrobat) or the Flash (a runner, obviously).

Is that linked image from an actual official comic book? I know comic art is always a little over the top, but that is taking it to a horrifying extreme.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Is that linked image from an actual official comic book? I know comic art is always a little over the top, but that is taking it to a horrifying extreme.

Yes and even by Rob Liefield it was extreme. Ironically Extreme was the name of one of his comic lines .

 

[Christopher]

Is that linked image from an actual official comic book? I know comic art is always a little over the top, but that is taking it to a horrifying extreme.

It's an infamous piece of Rob Liefeld's art, a promotional illustration for the Heroes Reborn event. https://www.fortressofsolitude.co.za/the-truth-behind-rob-liefelds-captain-america-image/

 

[JD]

I should have known it was Liefield.

 

[Mudd]

I should have known it was Liefield.

How? You can't see the feet.

 

[JD]

Feet?

 

[Nerys Myk]

Feet?

Joke about his drawing skills. Feet are a problem.

 

[theenglish]

Whenever I see a conservation like this, I'm reminded of this great photo series from a few years back:

The World’s Top Athlete Body Shapes Compared - REALITYPOD

Even though all models in the photos below are top athletes we see here how diverse the human physique is. Artist Howard Schatz interviewed and photographed hundreds of athletes for the book, a project he says was inspired by his interest in human variation and the musculoskeletal system. Body...

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