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Dax Question

Who_Trek

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Here's something I've been wondering about. I thought that the joined Trills were't supposed to reassociate with their past: isn't that what the episode with the woman-to-woman kiss was about? So how can Dax (Ezri) come back to DS9 as a joined Trill? Was this explained in the series? If so, I missed it. I just finished rereading "The left hand of destiny" (which is fantastic, by the way) and started wondering about that.
 
The taboo/law seems to apply only to lovers/spouses of a former host. (Perhaps family as well, but that's just speculation on my part.) This is borne out by Jadzia Dax's friendship with Sisko, starting at the beginning of the series. (Sisko was, after all, Curzon Dax's friend.)

Additionally, it seems that Dax and Khan are allowed to work together and, though it worried their friends and relatives, they also seem to be allowed to be friends. They just can't get romantically involved again.
 
You know, I was always under that impression as well. But there's a line somewhere in the seventh season where Ezri seems to specify that it applies only to people they were intimate with.
 
J47 said:
You know, I was always under that impression as well. But there's a line somewhere in the seventh season where Ezri seems to specify that it applies only to people they were intimate with.

Yep - it was in I believe the episode where she was trying to decide to stay or not (Afterimage I believe)
 
Or it could be the law was originally designed to apply only to members of their own species.
 
McCoy said:
Or it could be the law was originally designed to apply only to members of their own species.
Considering they were keeping their joined nature a secret, it would seem to be a rather logical assumption that it applied to non-Trill as well.

Which is something that always bothered me - if the Federation only found out about the Trill being a joined species in TNG season 4's "The Host," how were Sisko and the entire Klingon Empire fully aware of Curzon & the symbiont?
 
J47 said:
how were Sisko and the entire Klingon Empire fully aware of Curzon & the symbiont?

Sisko knew Curzon as "the old man", not the old man with a worm in his belly. We don't know when he learned of Curzon's secret; Curzon may have kept the symbiont as a secret tool of diplomacy and never let on to his work colleagues.

Also, "The Host" whom Beverly Crusher met was the other species of humanoid Trill hosts, so perhaps Starfleet medical database records were deliberately muddied. Odan had forehead bumps and also couldn't travel by transporter.

The Klingons in "Blood Oath" found it hard to believe Jadzia was also the person they knew as Curzon Dax.
 
J47 said:
McCoy said:
Or it could be the law was originally designed to apply only to members of their own species.
Considering they were keeping their joined nature a secret, it would seem to be a rather logical assumption that it applied to non-Trill as well.

Which is something that always bothered me - if the Federation only found out about the Trill being a joined species in TNG season 4's "The Host," how were Sisko and the entire Klingon Empire fully aware of Curzon & the symbiont?
I think DS9 just retconned it and made it so the Federation was always aware of it. Or at least a number of Starfleet officers knew about it but not everyone.
 
I think the difference is that Ezri accepted an assignment to Jadzias old workplaces, but not an assignment to Jadzias old position.
 
...Serving under Worf?

I'd say Ezri broke the very rule we heard spelled out in "Rejoined" - no intimate relations with past lovers of the previous host/slug combo. Unless that rule applies to Trill-Trill relations only.

And I can see how it might... There must already exist a whole thick book of other rules for keeping the existence of the worms a secret, and this would cover Trill-alien relationships. The rejoining taboo would then be a very specific species-internal hangup only.

Timo Saloniemi
 
In what sense? They don't seem to have any evil Goa'uld as their counterparts...

Yeah, both species hop from host to host but the respective worms can hang on to relationships while embedded in a succession of different hosts. But did the Tokra really have some code about not doing this? I thought Jolinar was just sort of shy.

Timo Saloniemi
 
The way Star Wars ripped off Star Trek by having ships that go through space, perhaps...

(Okay, question duly thrown away. ;) )

Timo Saloniemi
 
Timo said:
...Serving under Worf?

I'd say Ezri broke the very rule we heard spelled out in "Rejoined" - no intimate relations with past lovers of the previous host/slug combo. Unless that rule applies to Trill-Trill relations only.

And I can see how it might... There must already exist a whole thick book of other rules for keeping the existence of the worms a secret, and this would cover Trill-alien relationships. The rejoining taboo would then be a very specific species-internal hangup only.

Timo Saloniemi
Could it be interpreted as applying to only past symbiont relationships i.e. a symbiont cannot associate with other symbionts they knew in the past? But associating with other non-joined Trills and non-Trills is OK?
 
This must be how it works. "Rejoined" makes it sound as if the purpose of the taboo is to force the slugs / joined Trills to move on with their lives. Associating with non-joined hosts would not be a problem in that respect, because such hosts would be short-lived and the resulting "social stagnation" thus wouldn't last more than half a century at most. But associating with another slug, century after century after century, would be bad for progress.

Timo Saloniemi
 
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