Spoilers Dahj
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Definitely dead - her skin flaked off. The Romulan killed himself to kill her with the green cyanide thing.
In a recent Supergirl episode the synthetic lifeforms in it could upload to the Big Brain, kind of like a virtual reality. In The 100 there was something similar. And the Asgard in Stargate could also upload and later download their mind into a new clone body.
So maybe while her body was destroyed, her mind could have been uploaded to some place and theoretically could be downloaded later into a new body. So maybe she is dead right now, but could get revived.
So maybe while her body was destroyed, her mind could have been uploaded to some place and theoretically could be downloaded later into a new body. So maybe she is dead right now, but could get revived.
Her death seemed very strange to me, but perhaps she is dead which would be unfortunate.
But it seemed like they kind of....overlooked a lot? Like an explosion in San Francisco, phaser fire etc etc. You'd think a lot of these things wouldn't go unnoticed in the 24th century. I can imagine the Tal Shiar or whoever able to fuck with security feeds, but I imagine they have extremely advanced forensics and would be able to see/detect the phaser fire and burns.
But it seemed like they kind of....overlooked a lot? Like an explosion in San Francisco, phaser fire etc etc. You'd think a lot of these things wouldn't go unnoticed in the 24th century. I can imagine the Tal Shiar or whoever able to fuck with security feeds, but I imagine they have extremely advanced forensics and would be able to see/detect the phaser fire and burns.
Coluans aren’t synthetic. They just augment their bodies with technology.
I’m assuming starfleet or federation are covering it up
I further assume synthetic life forms are behind both Romulus and Mars
I've voted no mainly because of wishful thinking, she seemed to be an interesting character as a random twenty-something who was in way over her head. And her being dead seems more probable now, but I don't think it's impossible she survived. Who knows, maybe the Romulan's weird acid spit only incapacitated her... we don't really know what her innards look like. And that explosion was definitely big enough to conceal a covert transporter; the Romulans could beam in and out awfully quickly, after all. But on the other hand, we don't know anything about Soji yet... hopefully, she will turn out to be a good character as well, different background and upbringing aside.
Also, “police” checked feeds and only saw Picard running and falling. That’s a lot of edited and manipulated footage. Dahj could have survived (just need a medium strength personal force field really), then hacked the feeds, like she she has shown the ability to do.
I’m starting to come about on this. There is definitely a lot of groundwork here that could result in her not dying.
Not to mention, if she's a product of a Romulan plot to improve on Soong's design by combining it with Borg biotech, it would definitely make sense that they wouldn't destroy an important asset and probably one of their most advanced prototypes just because she killed the first team sent to retrieve her and escaped. She was in a very public location together with a high-profile former Starfleet officer, so a covert extraction would be definitely needed, preferably before Picard - and she - learned too much.
I mean the reason he is not in the future is some kind of plague which only befalls AI. And I think Brainy also described himself at one point as synthetic. The Arrowverse Wiki use this word, too:
https://arrow.fandom.com/wiki/Querl_Dox
https://arrow.fandom.com/wiki/Coluans
Either way it doesn't really matter in regards to PIC. So or so the example still works. Maybe Dahj's mind got saved/uploaded somehow and it can be put in a new body again.
As much as I hope she is still alive, I'm pretty sure she's dead.
I didn't thought it was poor storytelling, it was a good twist.
I didn't thought it was poor storytelling, it was a good twist.
This isn't someone being transported away.
Both Dahj and her clothes are being disolved by the green gook
This guy also dissolved, it's some form of cyanide. I'm not 100% convinced this guy is Romulan
There's no way that starfleet weren't aware of this transporter activity going on, unless the grid covering SF was 'down for maintenence' like in Enterprise when the Klingons took Phlox
Both Dahj and her clothes are being disolved by the green gook
This guy also dissolved, it's some form of cyanide. I'm not 100% convinced this guy is Romulan
There's no way that starfleet weren't aware of this transporter activity going on, unless the grid covering SF was 'down for maintenence' like in Enterprise when the Klingons took Phlox
"Rememberance" established that Data could possibly be remade with all his unique memories and experiences, and perhaps Dahj (who Picard pronounces correctly but everyone else calls "Dodge") can be reborn too.
So, I'm surprised the big question isn't: is Dahj actually Lal? At the end of "The Offspring", he says he downloaded all of her positronic network to his own. He then downloaded it to B4 (in the drawer!). Although Dr. Jurati claims this failed (i.e. Data's download), perhaps Lal's didn't and they were able to extract them.
The Offspring happened in 2368, and the painting in Picard is from 2369. Here's another portrait from Data:
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net...ision/latest?cb=20141225183027&path-prefix=en
Have to admit there's a similarity.
The Offspring happened in 2368, and the painting in Picard is from 2369. Here's another portrait from Data:
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net...ision/latest?cb=20141225183027&path-prefix=en
Have to admit there's a similarity.
I'd have thought they may have ignored Lal as a pain - in the same way they ignored Lore in Nemesis, until they mentioned Maddox.
Said it already in the review thread: I wouldn't be surprised if Dahj's "mother" will be revealed to be actually Lal...
Spock came back. `Nough said
The point is, IF they want to have her be alive, they left themselves a lot of ways of doing it.
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