Spoilers Dahj

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by TheMadCloner, Jan 24, 2020.

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Is Dahj actually dead?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. DaveyNY

    DaveyNY Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Not necessarily, they would only know that "something" happened to Picard.
    They would have to rely on the info given them by whomever brought Jean-Luc home.
    Once Picard woke up, they would get his version of what happened.

    Laris essentially told him that there was nothing available to confirm his version of the story.
    The Police brought him home and said he was the only one found on the roof.

    I just watched that scene again (at the 34:00 mark) to get a clearer memory of it.

    Zhaban says he took a bad knock, but neither of them mention an explosion.
    Obviously the 'Police' didn't mention that.
     
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  2. TPezz

    TPezz Commander Red Shirt

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    I thought perhaps her death was another dream, or a symptom of Irumodic syndrome, and she’s actually still alive having run away from Picard Vineyard. The last actual real sighting of her on the show is when she is “FaceTiming” her mother.

    Or she is dead and the whole story we saw on screen is true!
     
  3. DaveyNY

    DaveyNY Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I really do not believe this whole series is another "Bobby in the Shower" set up.

    What we are seeing is real as far as I'm concerned.
     
  4. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Was there a mother?

    Creating a template, being able to figure out what a hundredth of a gram worth of goop will look like in 20 years after it turns into a person, reeks of a mass of illegal genetic engineering...

    But he built a robot out of human body parts, and those body parts had to have come from somewhere, if they weren't outright grown from spunk and eggs?

    Although considering the mother that we did see, who was complicit in her daughters double identity. I think that mother is an AI governing program, and Dahj was never a child. She just lives out her 20s, gets her memory scrubbed, and then starts over as a 20 year old again.

    Two Asian women of consequence on The Enterprise D.

    Nurse Ogawa, and Kieko.

    Kieko was older and married, so it was more likely that she froze her fertilized eggs, in case of emergency.

    The computer on Voyager showed B'Elanna what her baby was going to look like as an adult, so the tech exists. After Data stole and murdered baby O'Brien, forcing a Positronic cloud to use a meat sack as a home, all is good.

    I saw Rosiland on the L Word The Q Generation (it a new revival) last week.
     
  5. NewHeavensNewEarth

    NewHeavensNewEarth Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    The mom might be a digital avatar for Maddox. During their video conversation on the street, her entire image was distorted for a moment, which might have been the comm connection, but also might've been a clue.
     
  6. Reanok

    Reanok Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I'm sure there will be more clues of how Dahj and Soji were created by Maddox in future episodes.
     
  7. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    The painting was from 2369.

    Data has had a blue print on how to build Dahj since 2369.

    1. Data alone built Dahj near 2369.
    2. Data and Maddox built Dahj near 2369.
    3. Maddox alone built Dahj after Data died, using the blueprint Data made.
     
  8. Awesome Possum

    Awesome Possum Let's Fly Moderator

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    I figured the acid was in a fake tooth. Like in spy movies they have they fake molar with cyanide in it so they can’t be captured or when Duke Leto tries to kill the Baron with the poison spray tooth.
     
  9. Awesome Possum

    Awesome Possum Let's Fly Moderator

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    I don’t even think it’s connected to a live person, it’s a program like a hologram. Dahj has never actually met her, she’s just implanted memories and she really only talks to her through the PADD. The reason it glitched is because it wasn’t prepared for her to respond like that and it instantly updated.
     
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  10. Danja

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    You don't kill your leading lady off in the first episode. :shifty:
     
  11. Noname Given

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    I don't think an A.I. program would slip up the way she did -- Bringing up returning to Picard, when Dajh had never mentioned the name in the call.
     
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  12. Uhura's Song

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    Well, the phaser rifle exploded and she was, presumably, killed by it if she hadn't been disintegrated by that acid stuff first.
     
  13. STR

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    Not at all. The whole point was that he already wasted decades of his life mourning the dead, and that didn't help a single damned person, least of all Jean-Luc himself. The best use of his time was mobilizing to go save the android he knew was still alive. There will always be time for regrets later, after he's made a difference.
     
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  14. Guy Gardener

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    The best use of his time would be spent on a stair master. Dahj had to carry Jean-Luc mostly while they were running from those para troopers.
     
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  15. Boris Skrbic

    Boris Skrbic Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    You did calculate that he’s 93+ before commenting?
     
  16. Relayer1

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    The "Mom" might be Lal.

    i doubt it, but...
     
  17. Phoenix219

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    Sargon and Company would have really liked this organic android body to inhabit idea....

    So would Korby, for that matter.

    Talk about flipping TOS android stories on their heads.
     
  18. Paul Weaver

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    Romulan Cyanide

    Harris
     
  19. KennyB

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    You do if you have a spare..........
     
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  20. JoeZhang

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    They didn't - which is why she appeared again later as her sister.
     
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