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Ancient Mariner said:
Where are you in upstate? I grew up in Albany. Went to college near Rochester, and my parents had a place in the North Country on the St. Lawrence River.

Living, in Queens, I genuinely miss the rest of New York. And am happy that those places have not suffered as we have here in NYC.
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I live in Syracuse, & work in one of its hospitals. Fortunately, of the 4 other major hubs in upstate, Buffalo has the higher rates, & my town has the lowest, & easiest for our healthcare system, & while that's a blessing, it's a bit worrying because that lack of crisis in our vicinity has a lot less people being diligent about safety. The weather & environment is beautiful right now & people are very very out... & I don't like it. :mad: At least I'm seeing masks. I guess that's something. :shrug:

I've been down to the greater NYC area a number of times in my life, & TBH, I could never get comfortable there. It's too many people, too close. I got social conditions, ASD, & dislike of crowds etc... It never felt right to me, & in a time like now, I almost feel like this is exactly what I was put off by. It goes against my every instinct, that way of life.

When I was 18, (1990) I played a music gig at the Wetlands in Tribeca. It was such an awesome time, but it was February, & I caught a bug that nearly killed me with walking pneumonia. The sickest I've ever been in my life. As a result, in an oddly fortunate way, to my mind, that place is scary with potential infection, ever since that day.

Take care & be safe

Edit: Oops, I just remembered, the 1990 show was at the Palladium. The Wetlands one that got me sick was a few years later. It was a benefit for Prince's New Power Generation. Of course... Prince didn't show up :rolleyes: lol
 
Syracuse ... the heart of Lake Effect. I used to commute from Geneseo to Schenectady on Monday mornings, the Cherry Valley route, and that area was always a roll of the dice. I even once had my car break down in Syracuse. Beautiful scenery. To quote the Dark Crystal: It was another world. Another time.
 
Ancient Mariner said:
Syracuse ... the heart of Lake Effect. I used to commute from Geneseo to Schenectady on Monday mornings, the Cherry Valley route, and that area was always a roll of the dice. I even once had my car break down in Syracuse. Beautiful scenery. To quote the Dark Crystal: It was another world. Another time.
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Oh yeah. We do get the snow, but snow melts & I got me a 4x4 lol. The beauty of this area & the relatively low cost of living is pretty much all that kept me here. I'm literally a 20 minute drive from some of the most beautiful waterfalls on Earth
 
News from Germany.

While Angela Merkel was for more caution, despite lowering numbers of new infections, many of the Minister-Presidents of the states pushed for opening up again. Especially Armin Laschet, Minister-President of Northrhine-Westphalia, has been very aggressive about it in the past weeks.
Today, the federal government and the Minister-Presidents were in a conference on how to proceed further. In the end, the federal government is now leaving it to the states as to what to do, but Merkel has brought in the idea of cap for acceptable new infections.

So, in many tourist destinations hotels and restaurants are allowed to re-open, and all retailers are allowed to open without spatial limits, though all this under strict conditions (a maximum number of people allowed to enter, masks, distance, hygiene). And while theaters are still closed, the Bundesliga, the German football league, will be allowed to hold matches again, though in empty stadiums and with regular testing and the players keeping up social distancing outside of the matches.
 
Kai "the spy" said:
News from Germany.

While Angela Merkel was for more caution, despite lowering numbers of new infections, many of the Minister-Presidents of the states pushed for opening up again. Especially Armin Laschet, Minister-President of Northrhine-Westphalia, has been very aggressive about it in the past weeks.
Today, the federal government and the Minister-Presidents were in a conference on how to proceed further. In the end, the federal government is now leaving it to the states as to what to do, but Merkel has brought in the idea of cap for acceptable new infections.

So, in many tourist destinations hotels and restaurants are allowed to re-open, and all retailers are allowed to open without spatial limits, though all this under strict conditions (a maximum number of people allowed to enter, masks, distance, hygiene). And while theaters are still closed, the Bundesliga, the German football league, will be allowed to hold matches again, though in empty stadiums and with regular testing and the players keeping up social distancing outside of the matches.
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I know I'm an eternal pessimist, but I fear this is all SO going to end badly. I share Merkel's concerns. People will forget about the rules and infections will be on the rise again. And we high risk group folks will be at an even greater risk all over again.
 
I have to say, when I take the tram these days, there are a few people without masks. At this point they've got to do it on purpose. Last week, maybe they hadn't heard yet, but even then there were people just holding a shirt over their face. But by now, yes, they gotta know. I've seen police checking trams in my city on the news, but not in real life. It happens, but I also acknowledge that the police can't do this around the clock.
I do wish the tram drivers were taking a similar approach with passengers without masks as they do with people with bikes: calling them out and stopping the tram until they either get off or put on a mask.

That said, the overwhelming majority of passengers is masked, it really is just the odd one out who probably listens too much to Ken Jebsen and the sorts. And I haven't been on a bus in the past two weeks with an not-masked passenger on it.
 
People seem to be getting a little more lax around here. Last week while grocery shopping, probably about 50% of the customers were wearing masks. This week, it seemed to be down to about 10 - 15%.
 
I live in the rural US, were 6 feet is easy to do unless in a convenience store.

Personally, I agree with the German Federal Government and the US-let the states decide. Especially in the US where you have everything from New York to my town of 600.
 
Kai "the spy" said:
I have to say, when I take the tram these days, there are a few people without masks. At this point they've got to do it on purpose. Last week, maybe they hadn't heard yet, but even then there were people just holding a shirt over their face. But by now, yes, they gotta know. I've seen police checking trams in my city on the news, but not in real life. It happens, but I also acknowledge that the police can't do this around the clock.
I do wish the tram drivers were taking a similar approach with passengers without masks as they do with people with bikes: calling them out and stopping the tram until they either get off or put on a mask.

That said, the overwhelming majority of passengers is masked, it really is just the odd one out who probably listens too much to Ken Jebsen and the sorts. And I haven't been on a bus in the past two weeks with an not-masked passenger on it.
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A tram driver explained this in an FB group: "We can't do anything if someone doesn't wear a mask - we can only have people thrown out if they don't have a ticket. If they have a valid ticket, it's our duty to transport people, mask or not." And that's the problem - all it takes is one jerk without a mask who doesn't even have to have any symptoms. Maybe not for people who aren't high risk, they're probably like "eh, not much is going to happen to me", but someone like me who's in a risk group but also has to rely on public transport just can't take that risk. They can't have police everywhere, of course, no one can actually check every single bus/tram. It all rests on individuals choosing to wear a mask for the good of everyone. Also, I VERY much doubt this will last long because the temperatures are already rising here, and since our trams don't have air conditioning, temperatures inside can and will rise up to at least 45 degrees celsius - you can barely breathe in there even without a mask. NO ONE is going to wear a mask anymore under those conditions.
 
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