Airiam 1.0 (Sara Mitich) is the better Airiam. Yes, I know it was Airiam 2.0 that died, but they were supposed to be one and the same, so if they bring back Airiam it could be either of them.
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I can't remember the source but from what I understood Mitich had problems with the facial prostheses or makeup for being Airiam, and she moved over to her new role as Nilsson.
All I’m saying is that I don’t disagree with it on principle. Execution is another matter entirely, but having connections to another series is not necessarily a bad thing by default.
Airiam 3.0 it is then
Damned if you, damned if you don't. If it's stock footage, that means they are using Discovery's Control future as stock footage for another future disaster caused by some other AI. If it's Control, it means we can't get a break from Discovery's convoluted writing even on Picard.Thinking about the poll... what would "It was Control, it's gone because Discovery defeated it 150 years ago, but the Zhat Vash don't know it because they don't have the context for their visions" be covered under?
Other than "needlessly convoluted", I mean
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Nah its obvious he was always S31.
If there is indeed a connection between the events of the future shown in the DSC, it will rather be a loose connection without saying so explicitly. Simply to show a similar apocalyptic future. Picard is unlikely to mention the events of more than a century ago because he doesn't know about them nor do they connect directly. Only the result is the same but the paths leading to the shown future are different.
Who knows, maybe the reorganized Section 31 joined forces with the Zhat Vash after all that unpleasantness with Control. It started out as their own strategic AI after all...
So if both visions are the same event, how do you fix it? Control is gone (supposedly) and that future has already been prevented. Yet Zhat Vash and their vision of that future remains. I doubt you can get rid off all Zhat Vash very easily (they have been around for thousands of years) so how do you "win" against them? And don't tell me it's going to be Boringham and USS Discovery jumping in at the last moment to save Picard and explain to Zhat Vash that Control is already gone.
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Yes it is possible, the only issue blocking it is time, it will require Burnham, Georgiou or possibly her mother to travel back in time a very long way using the suit.
Plus for the cycle to start it will require that person to have the images in their head so they can go back and transfer it to the Vulcans in the first place.
It may not have anything to do with Control and Discovery but it is looking a bit fishy to me.
I could totally see the Commodore as S31 but there are going to be some unhappy campers if it ends up being true.
I will be OK with it but I can certainly understand why so many want Picard to be its own thing.
Plus I think Discovery is heading for a colossal reset anyway, its funny really, Burnham could go hunting through time to find the events that brought about the war with the Klingons and the fall of the Federation, in so doing she would end up having to wipe herself from existence to make it happen, the suit would protect her from being erased but she would have to go somewhere that is guaranteed not to cause problems.
One of the best places she could go is actually back in time a long way rather than forwards, thus letting the Vulcans know about synthetic research in advance.
There is still the matter of the Supernova and how that happened is the real question that will lead to the true big bad of the series.
Why spend money and time creating new scenes that will only be seen for just a few seconds? Just tweak it a bit and save money for the final episodes.
Why? Because fans will pick over it for meaning.
Picard will give his sermon.
And seriously, I don't think the ZV is the enemy here. They have a good goal but bad methods. As for the future, I've already written that we have a different path here. Just like in the Terminator movies, there were different events leading to JD.As a TNG fan, you have the fucking hubris to write this about a more interesting character, who in a dozen or so episodes has had more development than all the TNG character clichés for 7 seasons.
There will be no reset. Just like it wasn't at the end of season 1 and 2.
As a TNG fan, you have the fucking hubris to write this about a more interesting character, who in a dozen or so episodes has had more development than all the TNG character clichés for 7 seasons.
Is this satire?
As a TNG fan, you have the fucking hubris to write this about a more interesting character, who in a dozen or so episodes has had more development than all the TNG character clichés for 7 seasons.
I think so. No one can say that with a straight face
