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Spoilers Control?!?!

Control or Stock Footage?


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Well the terms Discoprise, Visual Canon have entered the thread. Time for some good ole fashioned Disco hating. Who gets to say STD first or complain about windows in the bridge? anyone?
STD term already mentioned few posts earlier :)
 
STD term already mentioned few posts earlier :)
Naturally.

I like both shows. I would prefer they not be connected. I doubt it will happen. so far the only connection has been a throwaway line about a Gormadander.
 
I'm going to go out on a limb and say this is stock footage.

No, they're not "passed this". Stock footage has been around since the filmed medium itself. These shots are all expensive to create. Picard is expensive to produce. If they can cut corners somewhere, to use money where it matters more somewhere else, they will.

I have no doubt that the Zaht Vash are imagining horrible Doom's Day things. So those are the thoughts Oh communicated to Jurati. Oh fears the worst. So everything she gives Juarti is going to be the worst.
Spock has a vision of future where AI destroys life
Oh has a vision of the future where AI destroys life.

Damn it Kurtzman!
 
Will, I just watched the online teaser for episode 8, and noticed
a face in similar makeup to Airiam.

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4 seconds in.
Huuummmmnnn.....

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(always late to the party...)
 
We can probably leave off spoiler tags here since this is a spoiler tagged already, plus it's mostly conjecture.

But yeah...
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I can see how the thing in second pic is related to Airiam somehow..
The eyes of the second one look distinctly Asian for me, and there just happens to be an actress of Filipino ancestry playing an android on the show... might the vision be related to Dahj and Soji somehow, perhaps an early prototype?
 
I find it hard to believe this is anything more than convenient stock footage given that the shots in question are maybe two seconds of screen time. I seriously doubt that Chabon and company are going to rerun the same enemy and obstacle used in the most recent previous season of Star Trek.

There's also the fact that we're told that half the galaxy is in danger. That's not all sentient life per Discovery; that's a more accessible way of saying "Alpha and Beta Quadrants." I doubt they'd say, "Let's have the same threat, but not as scary!"
 
It's possible. Might even be a soft lead-in to the season premiere of Discovery. The CW does this all the time with its shows in the same universe.
 
It's possible. Might even be a soft lead-in to the season premiere of Discovery. The CW does this all the time with its shows in the same universe.

IMHO there's a big difference between superhero series set on earth and a setting that takes up the entire galaxy. Making everything self-referential and "small universe" makes the setting seem small and tawdry. More like a stage play than a big open universe.
 
I find it hard to believe this is anything more than convenient stock footage given that the shots in question are maybe two seconds of screen time. I seriously doubt that Chabon and company are going to rerun the same enemy and obstacle used in the most recent previous season of Star Trek.

There's also the fact that we're told that half the galaxy is in danger. That's not all sentient life per Discovery; that's a more accessible way of saying "Alpha and Beta Quadrants." I doubt they'd say, "Let's have the same threat, but not as scary!"
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I think you are at Denial stage :D
 
I think all the Trek shows from now on are going to be heavily interconnected.
It's just the way things are now with everything under one roof, so to speak.
:shrug:

I like DISCOVERY so I've got no problem with there being major threads intertwined among the new shows.

Except they are not under the same roof - remember part of the financial model is selling the series to international streaming services - a show that relies on narrative from shows not on your service is less attractive and also contractually complex.

Section 31 is a spin-off of Discovery so Netflix has first rights on it. Picard is not so it can be openly sold.

It is pretty unlikely to me that when Amazon were doing their due diligence they did not ask "this does not rely on strong ties to the Netflix show?"

Cameos, easter eggs and references sure - that we find out that it is an bad guy from an entirely different show? No.
 
Except they are not under the same roof - remember part of the financial model is selling the series to international streaming services - a show that relies on narrative from shows not on your service is less attractive and also contractually complex.

Section 31 is a spin-off of Discovery so Netflix has first rights on it. Picard is not so it can be openly sold.

It is pretty unlikely to me that when Amazon were doing their due diligence they did not ask "this does not rely on strong ties to the Netflix show?"

Cameos, easter eggs and references sure - that we find out that it is an bad guy from an entirely different show? No.
CBS is the Producer. Amazon/Netflix are just international distributors. I doubt they have any creative control.
 
That cyborg/android who looks like Airiam looks a lot less advanced than Data or the Synths. Robotic and not "more human". So he/she/it can't be a prediction of the future.

If Airiam comes back, they have to explain who Airiam is for people who don't watch Discovery and they're setting up something that won't happen for another 800 years. For us, we just have to wait a few months? But for the actual characters in Picard? "There's this threat that's going to come in 800 years!" And that's it.

It's like us saying "There's going to be a threat in 2800!" That's horrible, but that's never going to happen in our lifetimes. Most people won't care. You can't even get people today to care about the environment and what that will mean by the middle of this century. Forget about 800 years.

So linking Picard to Discovery so directly doesn't work dramatically. There's nothing that effects anyone's life in Picard. I give Michael Chabon more credit than that.
 
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