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Yeah, we appear to see him talking to her as a kid in the trailer, so my thought right now is that either he raised her or she was raised on Vulcan, with Sarek as a mentor figure.
It was trying very hard to be dramatic and it was dark. The tone, the lack of color. I'm wary of that, if they over think everything trying to be better than the rest.. 'they will fail'. The Klingons are pretty ugly. Us women should be over the moon about representation here, men featuring in a trailer must be a liability. Stick that up your colorful jumpsuit Kirk and Picard!
Nice to see Star Trek alive though. Hear that theme.. C+ Too dark.
Nice to see Star Trek alive though. Hear that theme.. C+ Too dark.
Some people said the same thing for Enterprise.
Ha! I love that! The grand total of the visual consistencies is that it exposes that this is television. What a shock, right?
Of course TV shows made over 50 years apart will look very different even if they mean to take place in approximately the same futuristic fictional setting.
It's possible you're right. Another possibility is that they haven't had the chance to do the SFx for the action scenes. I believe the scenes in the trailer are only from the premiere episode and from early in that episode. They could only choose clips from what they've done so far. So, a bit of selection bias here possibly because they could only choose from the early scenes of one episode.
I've never understood why people think that a TV show could go back to TOS unvarnished. I mean, I love TOS. I love TOS with the original untouched effects... But it is a product of the 1960s, and it many ways that does show through. I still love it. But something like Star Trek Continues would never fly on TV today as a mainstream flagship TV show. I'm not bashing STC either. They do a great job recreating the feel and look and everything about TOS.
I hate to toot mine, or the horns of my friends, but it would be one thing if they did a one off type of thing ala what my friends and I were trying to do back in 2004 with Constellation/Vixen. Make a purposely retro styled Star Trek that billed itself as such. Something akin to Sky Captain and The World of Tomorrow, But that works as a one-off. A unique thing that you do once and then you move on. Much like "Trials" or "Relics." You can do it here and there, once and a while, and it'll be a nice bit of fan service, but make no mistake, you cannot do it as a full fledged TV show.
As far as not having a lot of action in the trailer. I would say that the series probably won't have a lot of action, simply because they seem to be aiming fairly high for the visual effects quality. To maintain that standard they will probably try to make things a quality over quanity thing. Like, i'd be really surprised if we get a lot of stock footage of the ships, for example, and I don't see "space battles" becoming the norm.
I remember when NuBSG came about, one of my friends remarked it was a little annoying that we rarely saw Galactica in action."Maybe it's because Moore is afraid of using stock footage." He remarked. Which kinda cracked me up, but he did have a point, and the result for the series as a whole was that the ship only ever saw "action" a few times. But when it did, it was really good stuff... But not just because it was good "action" but also becaues we had a vested interest in the goings on of the characters and the plot.(Well, YMMV.)
So while action-wise the series just may not be "that" kind of show and not need a lot of action, I also think it's very possible that the show will also be spending it's money much more wisely and trying to tell stories that build on each other and work to the strengths of a serialised/series show.
I hate to toot mine, or the horns of my friends, but it would be one thing if they did a one off type of thing ala what my friends and I were trying to do back in 2004 with Constellation/Vixen. Make a purposely retro styled Star Trek that billed itself as such. Something akin to Sky Captain and The World of Tomorrow, But that works as a one-off. A unique thing that you do once and then you move on. Much like "Trials" or "Relics." You can do it here and there, once and a while, and it'll be a nice bit of fan service, but make no mistake, you cannot do it as a full fledged TV show.
As far as not having a lot of action in the trailer. I would say that the series probably won't have a lot of action, simply because they seem to be aiming fairly high for the visual effects quality. To maintain that standard they will probably try to make things a quality over quanity thing. Like, i'd be really surprised if we get a lot of stock footage of the ships, for example, and I don't see "space battles" becoming the norm.
I remember when NuBSG came about, one of my friends remarked it was a little annoying that we rarely saw Galactica in action."Maybe it's because Moore is afraid of using stock footage." He remarked. Which kinda cracked me up, but he did have a point, and the result for the series as a whole was that the ship only ever saw "action" a few times. But when it did, it was really good stuff... But not just because it was good "action" but also becaues we had a vested interest in the goings on of the characters and the plot.(Well, YMMV.)
So while action-wise the series just may not be "that" kind of show and not need a lot of action, I also think it's very possible that the show will also be spending it's money much more wisely and trying to tell stories that build on each other and work to the strengths of a serialised/series show.
I doubt we'll see a bunch of pew pew every week. Looks like the budget is being spent in different ways.
Let's remember, action is not bad. I expect action in this show. Too much action is bad. Just like too much sitting around and talking is bad. I don't want "Staff Meeting Trek" either.
so i wonder why CBS is so anal about the Netflix trailer being uploaded.
I didn't like Enterprise at all and don't care for the new movies either, but maybe I'm in the minority. Visually, it looks like they're making the same mistakes. Its too sleek and modern, completely unlike the time period. I still don't understand why there's so much love for the TOS era. One of the best things about Star Wars The Force Awakens is how they were able to blend old and new aesthetics and cinematography. I don't understand why DSC couldn't have gone that route, instead of completely reinventing the wheel.
This just feels too safe and lacking creativity. Why not jump forward in time from VOY and set a series then? Or even elsewhere in the 24th Century. I'd rather see a modern series like TNG.
This just feels too safe and lacking creativity. Why not jump forward in time from VOY and set a series then? Or even elsewhere in the 24th Century. I'd rather see a modern series like TNG.
Only certain subliminal messages work on Americans.
Human women do not have to wait 7 years
And even then visual changes would be necessary. Or would we all still pretend that those touchscreens made any logical sense whatsoever (just a small example)?
I think a series made in 2017 will be more modern than one made in 1987, no matter when it's set.
I think a series made in 2017 will be more modern than one made in 1987, no matter when it's set.
Damn future, it's always changing on us.
^ Yeah, the future just ain't what it used to be.
What! That's not how 25th century uniforms are supposed to look! This is ruined, ruined, I tell you.!!!!!I think a series made in 2017 will be more modern than one made in 1987, no matter when it's set.
Oh, that's rubbish. Trek has always come from that viewpoint. The original series addressed the Vietnam War (A Private Little War) and other topics such as racism and such (racism at the time of Martin Luther King).
That didn't make them necessarily hostile to those who were moderate/conservative either, in later shows religion was presented truthfully as in Bajoran religion in DS9 - both positive and negative aspects. Kira was a woman of faith. So they were reasonably even-handed in that regard. Occasionally they strayed a bit far left, but I'm sure there were liberals who rolled their eyes at the Bajoran religion being presented positively too.
With Hollywood leaning left, one would expect liberal attitudes to come across the screen. As long as people are fair and not attacking those with conservative beliefs, that's OK. I don't mean condoning any negative conservative views, but attacking the reasonable ones. Star Trek usually doesn't.
Although I confess, their attitude that people work for the common good and without pay made me laugh heartily. Whatever Roddenberry et al were smoking to come out with that belief, I want some. People are motivated by self-interest and aren't going to roll out of bed at 7 AM to clean conduits unless they at least get access to the holodeck for recreation.
This^. Thank you, T'Bonz!
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