Consolidated Trailer Thread

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Campe, May 17, 2017.

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Grade the trailer

  1. A+

    17.8%
  2. A

    16.8%
  3. A-

    20.8%
  4. B+

    13.7%
  5. B

    9.6%
  6. B-

    3.6%
  7. C+

    2.5%
  8. C

    3.6%
  9. C-

    3.6%
  10. D+

    2.0%
  11. D

    1.5%
  12. D-

    1.0%
  13. F

    3.6%
  1. mos6507

    mos6507 Commodore Commodore

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    Discovery is a show conceived and built by committee, and it shows.

    The biggest emotion I feel watching this trailer is "confusion".

    I just can't get a feel for what it wants to be. You know, its mission-statement. It's neither fish nor foul. I see PC flight-sim joysticks and lens-flare and window viewscreens. This is stuff I feel they're doing to pander to the kiddies as Les Moonves says, and yet I know the underlying canon DNA is supposed to be prime. But knowing it's prime causes all this "friction" because all the other shows (and the TNG movies) tried to just accept all the prior shows' look and feel, even Enterprise when they had the fanservice Defiant two-parter. So there's no way to sort of mentally group this show with any of the others. Since I think that's what prime fans were hoping to see in a show set in prime, it disappoints them, and it disappoints those who wanted Kelvin timeline.

    Politics may be the art of compromise but art should be about making bold statements on the basis that you can't please all the people all the time.

    If the intention of the show is to sort of bring all factions of fandom together in a reimagining then CBS should have framed it that way in the first place.

    I think the reason it didn't is that there was indeed a creative tug-of-war between the various cooks and I hope they didn't wind up spoiling the broth in the process.

    It does look feature-film-like. I'll give it that much.
     
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  2. mswood

    mswood Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I have to seriously disagree. Though each person has different views.

    And just because I thought there was across the board vast. and dramatic changes in every single aspect of the finished product, for the most part I actually really liked those changes (though I am was never a fan of the costume choices of that film, though I wasn't much a fan of the costumes of TOS either).
     
  3. RAMA

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    One of the most irrelevant statements yet made.

    Name one TV show not made by a committee. Take all the time you need...

    RAMA
     
  4. RAMA

    RAMA Admiral Admiral

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    If by "minimal" you mean "wholesale changes", then you are correct.

    What happened in the interim? Star Wars, ILM; Close Encounters.
     
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  5. CorporalCaptain

    CorporalCaptain Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    That's an intriguing idea. Perhaps her spacewalk marks the last time Burnham sets foot on the Shenzhou.
     
  6. mos6507

    mos6507 Commodore Commodore

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    Babylon 5
     
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  7. rahullak

    rahullak Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I like the contemporary nature of the trailer. In the sense, there's no attempt to mimic or copy either TOS or Enterprise. Discovery is its own thing. The CGI looks cool and the prosthetics makes it look all the more "real". Cannot wait for the storyline to be revealed, as that and the characterization could make this the best Trek show yet.
     
  8. Noname Given

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    That didn't seem to hurt TNG during it's run (and yeah look at the TNG episode credits and COUNT how many 'Producers' there are listed in one episode. ;)
     
  9. RAMA

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  11. Crazy Eddie

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    Seinfeld, maybe?
     
  12. RAMA

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  13. Noname Given

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    ^^^
    Yeah, but even the staff said Seinfeld was a "Show about Nothing" - so it shouldn't have needed a Committee. ;)
     
  14. Tosk

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    Nope. (It's a trick question, there are no shows that weren't made by committee.) ;)
     
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  15. mos6507

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    As if everyone on the crew had equal creative control. Please. JMS wielded more individual control on that show than anyone else I'm aware of from TV history.

    Discovery, by comparison, is a show that has already lost/fired the one strongest rudder it had with Bryan Fuller.

    You get "committee" decisionmaking when everyone sits around the table and tries to reach a consensus. You know, United Nations negotiations. Creative collaboration sounds good on paper but when dealing with a property with 50 years of history you risk creating sort of a watered down fruit-salad and I think Discovery kind of has a generic vibe that at times does remind one of The Orville or Galaxy Quest.

    It tries to be original enough that it doesn't carry enough visual callbacks to Enterprise or TOS. Then it creates visual callbacks to a whole different timeline. The uniforms are completely new. It's a fruit-salad.
     
  16. DigificWriter

    DigificWriter Vice Admiral Admiral

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    ^ The general aesthetic of DSC, as noted several times already, is directly taken from/inspired by the USS Kelvin, which originated in the Prime Timeline, so, no, it hasn't "created visual callbacks to a whole different timeline".
     
  17. CorporalCaptain

    CorporalCaptain Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Here's a theory.

    In Sarek's speech at the beginning about great unifiers needing a profound cause to rally their followers around, perhaps what he is talking about is an existential threat to the Federation in the form of Klingons unified and led by a certain House. Perhaps the discovered mummy (sure, it could be Kahless) is the unifying cause that the House is seeking.
     
  18. Mr Awe

    Mr Awe Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Ah . . . no. There's just one reboot in that sequence. It seems like you don't know the meaning of the word.
     
  19. Mr Awe

    Mr Awe Vice Admiral Admiral

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    D'oh! Words have meanings.

    In this case, the words I'll go with are, "direct prequel to TOS." Clear enough?
     
  20. Thefallguy

    Thefallguy Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    So you stopped by, just to tell us this? How nice of you. Now turn around and go back, where you came from.
     
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