Consolidated Trailer Thread

[mswood]

Those changes were minimal compared to this.

I have to seriously disagree. Though each person has different views.

And just because I thought there was across the board vast. and dramatic changes in every single aspect of the finished product, for the most part I actually really liked those changes (though I am was never a fan of the costume choices of that film, though I wasn't much a fan of the costumes of TOS either).

 

[RAMA]

Discovery is a show conceived and built by committee, and it shows.

One of the most irrelevant statements yet made.

Name one TV show not made by a committee. Take all the time you need...

RAMA

 

[RAMA]

Those changes were minimal compared to this.

If by "minimal" you mean "wholesale changes", then you are correct.

What happened in the interim? Star Wars, ILM; Close Encounters.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Cmdr Burnham left in space to witness the events and just left there

That's an intriguing idea. Perhaps her spacewalk marks the last time Burnham sets foot on the Shenzhou.

 

[mos6507]

Name one TV show not made by a committee. Take all the time you need...

Babylon 5

 

[rahullak]

I like the contemporary nature of the trailer. In the sense, there's no attempt to mimic or copy either TOS or Enterprise. Discovery is its own thing. The CGI looks cool and the prosthetics makes it look all the more "real". Cannot wait for the storyline to be revealed, as that and the characterization could make this the best Trek show yet.

 

[Noname Given]

Discovery is a show conceived and built by committee, and it shows.

That didn't seem to hurt TNG during it's run (and yeah look at the TNG episode credits and COUNT how many 'Producers' there are listed in one episode.

 

[RAMA]

Babylon 5

Tell that to the 100+ people, Foundation Imaging, Rob Thornton, etc. who worked on it.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105946/fullcredits?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm

 

[RAMA]

Entertainment Weekly: "Lavishly produced and epic"

http://ew.com/tv/2017/05/17/star-trek-discovery-trailer/?xid=entertainment-weekly_socialflow_twitter

 

[Crazy Eddie]

Name one TV show not made by a committee. Take all the time you need...

Seinfeld, maybe?

 

[RAMA]

Seinfeld, maybe?

Not even close. They had quite a stable of writers.

http://www.ranker.com/list/list-of-seinfeld-writers/reference

 

[Noname Given]

Seinfeld, maybe?

^^^
Yeah, but even the staff said Seinfeld was a "Show about Nothing" - so it shouldn't have needed a Committee.

 

[Tosk]

Seinfeld, maybe?

Nope. (It's a trick question, there are no shows that weren't made by committee.)

 

[mos6507]

Tell that to the 100+ people, Foundation Imaging, Rob Thornton, etc. who worked on it.

As if everyone on the crew had equal creative control. Please. JMS wielded more individual control on that show than anyone else I'm aware of from TV history.

Discovery, by comparison, is a show that has already lost/fired the one strongest rudder it had with Bryan Fuller.

You get "committee" decisionmaking when everyone sits around the table and tries to reach a consensus. You know, United Nations negotiations. Creative collaboration sounds good on paper but when dealing with a property with 50 years of history you risk creating sort of a watered down fruit-salad and I think Discovery kind of has a generic vibe that at times does remind one of The Orville or Galaxy Quest.

It tries to be original enough that it doesn't carry enough visual callbacks to Enterprise or TOS. Then it creates visual callbacks to a whole different timeline. The uniforms are completely new. It's a fruit-salad.

 

[DigificWriter]

^ The general aesthetic of DSC, as noted several times already, is directly taken from/inspired by the USS Kelvin, which originated in the Prime Timeline, so, no, it hasn't "created visual callbacks to a whole different timeline".

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Here's a theory.

In Sarek's speech at the beginning about great unifiers needing a profound cause to rally their followers around, perhaps what he is talking about is an existential threat to the Federation in the form of Klingons unified and led by a certain House. Perhaps the discovered mummy (sure, it could be Kahless) is the unifying cause that the House is seeking.

 

[Mr Awe]

I can't speak for Dennis, but I think he's riffing on the idea that Star Trek has really been reboot multiple times (films, TNG, TNG films, ENT, nuTrek, etc.)

Ah . . . no. There's just one reboot in that sequence. It seems like you don't know the meaning of the word.

 

[Mr Awe]

Yep.

"Reboot," "reimagining" etc. are words that mean exactly what some marketing people decide they mean this week - nothing more and nothing less. They're mainly used to misdirect, assuage and excuse.

D'oh! Words have meanings.

In this case, the words I'll go with are, "direct prequel to TOS." Clear enough?

 

[Thefallguy]

First time logging into this site for over 10 years. Just came in to say this looks like absolute garbage. Prime universe, yeah right.... Star Trek died with Enterprise and we all may as well face it.

So you stopped by, just to tell us this? How nice of you. Now turn around and go back, where you came from.

 

[RAMA]

Nah, Rod Serling comes to mind.

However, the show IS following Fuller's plan, which is fine. I can't disparage Fuller's talent, however, his firing was probably the best thing that happened to DSC. He simply caused too much delay by spreading himself too thin.

The rule of thumb is that no show can be made by a single creative person. DSC itself has numerous personalities. Meyer, Goldsman, even Rod Roddenberry Jr. amongst others. This should give it more than enough story depth, over and above the running time of the 2:24 min trailer. Once again, people are trying to suggest a confused plot in a short trailer that's not trying to reveal the plot..they don't even show the Discovery itself or the captain!

RAMA

As if everyone on the crew had equal creative control. Please. JMS wielded more individual control on that show than anyone else I'm aware of from TV history.

Discovery, by comparison, is a show that has already lost/fired the one strongest rudder it had with Bryan Fuller.

You get "committee" decisionmaking when everyone sits around the table and tries to reach a consensus. You know, United Nations negotiations. Creative collaboration sounds good on paper but when dealing with a property with 50 years of history you risk creating sort of a watered down fruit-salad and I think Discovery kind of has a generic vibe that at times does remind one of The Orville or Galaxy Quest.

It tries to be original enough that it doesn't carry enough visual callbacks to Enterprise or TOS. Then it creates visual callbacks to a whole different timeline. The uniforms are completely new. It's a fruit-salad.