Concerns about the new ST

[eyeresist]

I admit that when I see the IDIC, I think "Peace, tolerance, and make a buck if you can."

 

[JWPlatt]

I liken a philosophy rooted in IDIC to one rooted in The Force; mostly cultish behavior centered around an idol. Philosophy should emerge from a long-term evolutionary reality shared by a population - not a fictional TV show or movie trying to create broad meaning from a sparse fiction that is merely a story device facade.

 

[shady12]

I'm just giving an example, because a 26 episode show will NOT have a $5 million per episode budget, but a 13 episode series just might.

As for the budget estimate, we've discussed this topic before here..and the closest comparison for a modern space opera is "The Expanse" which has a per episode budget of $5.4 million. Or it could be $5 or 6 million. Either way, you need to calm the Hell down.

If it looks as good as The Expanse I'll be happy. Great looking show and you can tell it has a budget.

 

[eyeresist]

I liken a philosophy rooted in IDIC to one rooted in The Force; mostly cultish behavior centered around an idol. Philosophy should emerge from a long-term evolutionary reality shared by a population - not a fictional TV show or movie trying to create broad meaning from a sparse fiction that is merely a story device facade.

They did give the IDIC a background, as I recall. The triangle represents Mount Seleyah, and presumably the motto comes from the wisdom of Surak. I think it's believable as an artifact of Vulcan cultural history.

 

[fireproof78]

I liken a philosophy rooted in IDIC to one rooted in The Force; mostly cultish behavior centered around an idol. Philosophy should emerge from a long-term evolutionary reality shared by a population - not a fictional TV show or movie trying to create broad meaning from a sparse fiction that is merely a story device facade.

I tend to agree with this sentiment. Personal philosophy, belief or code of conduct should not be rooted in pop culture propaganda, no matter how poignant or iconic.

They did give the IDIC a background, as I recall. The triangle represents Mount Seleyah, and presumably the motto comes from the wisdom of Surak. I think it's believable as an artifact of Vulcan cultural history.

Could I believe it came from Vulcan history? Absolutely? Do I need it to be tossed around at people who demonstrate intolerance towards others? No. I have other reference points for that.

 

[eyeresist]

Could I believe it came from Vulcan history? Absolutely? Do I need it to be tossed around at people who demonstrate intolerance towards others? No. I have other reference points for that.

Using a Star Trek reference to make a point on a Star Trek forum? Intolerable!

 

[fireproof78]

Using a Star Trek reference to make a point on a Star Trek forum? Intolerable!

I would normally agree except I don't

Actually, I don't mind the Star Trek reference to IDIC. I just don't care for

IDIC

and that's the argument.

 

[aloha62]

If it looks as good as The Expanse I'll be happy. Great looking show and you can tell it has a budget.

Absolutely fantastic show overall, this massive gap between seasons is killing me!

 

[eyeresist]

@fireproof78, fair enough.

 

[Eckauskas]

My biggest concern is that clusterfuck of a ship they've just revealed.

Looks like something from the JJ-verse.

 

[eyeresist]

Looks like nothing from the JJ verse! What are you smoking?

 

[Mountie1988]

My biggest concern is that clusterfuck of a ship they've just revealed.

Looks like something from the JJ-verse.

It looks more like any other ship from any other sci-fi series ever made than it looks like from the JJ-verse.

 

[Kelso]

My only concern is that it isn't debuting until January and I want to watch it now!

 

[fireproof78]

My biggest concern is that clusterfuck of a ship they've just revealed.

Looks like something from the JJ-verse.

Based upon what?

 

[shady12]

Absolutely fantastic show overall, this massive gap between seasons is killing me!

No kidding. They made us wait a long time for the first season now a full year for season two.

 

[galad2003]

I have a some concerns so far:

• Being on CBS all access - I find it hard to believe it will draw in the viewers to keep going on such a specialized service. I don't think enough people will subscribe to just watch this show and many people ill never know a new ST exists. I think piracy will go through the roof on this one.
• Ugly ship
• All of this talk of diversity. Don't get me wrong I don't have anything against homosexual or transgendered people but I know I will get flak for saying this anyway. But I want to watch Star Trek, not WIll and Grace in space. Any crew composition should be focused on good actors and story lines, not checking off boxes on an affirmative action checklist. I think this concern is due to the unusually large amount of postings on the forums rather than what will happen in show so this is a minor concern.

Overall, not enough information has been released to worry too much and I hope the show will be good.

 

[borgboy]

That's like saying an all straight Trek - all the ones we've had in the past - were Three's Company in space.
Diversity in no way inhibits good storytelling.

 

[Dilandu]

If it looks as good as The Expanse I'll be happy. Great looking show and you can tell it has a budget.

It would definitedly not looks as good as The Expance. The Expance is VERY hard sci-fi, after all - almost Atomic Rocket style.

 

[sojourner]

It would definitedly not looks as good as The Expance. The Expance is VERY hard sci-fi, after all - almost Atomic Rocket style.

You're confusing setting with production quality. Hard or soft sci-fi can look great depending on the production.

 

[JeffinOakland]

I've seen tv and movies that cost a bazillion dollars and sucked. I've seen tv and movies that look like they were filmed in my backyard that were awesome.