Spoilers Clues on Picard show from Picard Countdown comic (possible spoilers)

[SolarisOne]

Oh, hey. It was written by Kirsten Beyer.
I freakin' love these uniforms.
Also, the Rommie foreheads are much more aesthetically pleasing than the TNG-era ones.

 

[Paul Weaver]

I see a scenario where a number of Starfleet ships, including the-E, got pulled by the supernova during the rescue mission and are destroyed in the process.

Which would explain why Picard isn't on the Enterprise.

 

[Takeru]

Have you watched TNG? There were a few times where Picard would have been willing to let a pre-warp civilization die because of the Prime Directive, if someone else hadn't already forced their hand into it. Data in Pen Pals, Worf's Brother in that episode I can't remember the name of, are two examples I can think of.

I watched all of TNG like 10 times over, it's my favourite Star Trek and of course I remember those episodes, they are the prime examples why I despise the Prime Directive.

My post was probably a bit short and didn't go into enough detail. Picard not giving shit about a pre-warp civilization being wiped out was always effed up but this makes it even more effed up. In this case he suddenly cares solely because these people have been enslaved and not because it's the right thing to do.
And to make a point he refuses to evacuate romulans just because romulan leadership doesn't want to evacuate the other species too ... a species he would have let die without a second thought if the romulans hadn't been there because that's the natural fate or whatever.

So if Picard decides to not give a shit for his reasons that's totally fine but if the romulans don't give a shit for their reasons the entire romulan population on that planet doesn't deserve his help and he's willing to let them all die too even the ones who had no say in the leaderships decision?

It's a bunch of BS, Picard comes off as a complete asshole.

 

[C.E. Evans]

Going to be a lot of NCC-97000 USS Verity in Star Trek Online now.
Speaking of which, that implies that it’s known as a Verity Class vessel here.

I'm thinking that NCC-97000 registry is an artist's error, or the USS Odyssey is going to have a different hull number. I'm curious though why they didn't just use the Odyssey in this issue unless the Verity is actually mentioned or shown in PIC.

 

[Paul Weaver]

It's a bunch of BS, Picard comes off as a complete asshole.

So consistency then

 

[Takeru]

So consistency then

Nooooo. He's awesome (except when it comes to these pesky annihilation of a planet's pre-warp civilization things)

 

[The Gatekeeper]

I also would love to see Robert Duncan McNeill on screen playing Tom. Now that he looks so alike Jonathan Frakes it would be nice to see someone who now looks like Riker as commander of the Enterprise

Does Robert Duncan McNeill even act anymore? I thought all his work was behind the camera as a director/producer these days. Though I guess he could make the exception and return to the front of the camera for Star Trek, such as Jonathan Frakes is.

 

[Paul Weaver]

McNeill should come back as Nick Locarno

 

[Yistaan]

for their reasons the entire romulan population on that planet doesn't deserve his help and he's willing to let them all die too even the ones who had no say in the leaderships decision?

And among that Romulan population who deserves Picard's help but doesn't get it as a miner named Nero.

They might as well salvage this Nero business now that his anger makes completely no sense. Although even if he is now changed to angry refugee who was refused asylum, it doesn't explain why he didn't just take his family on that massive ship he commands.

 

[Nyotarules]

It is a huge change of character for Picard though. Keep in mind he had no problem letting those primitive people Nikolai Rozhenko (Worf's adopted brother) lived with die from a natural disaster and lost absolutely no sleep over it (and even got mad Nikolai moved them to the holodeck).

Now he's having panic attacks on leaving a similar primitive species behind. I'm waiting for Q to appear to call Picard out on this double standard. Maybe the Romulans themselves should call him out on the double standard. Should we notify the comic writers of this episode?

Why some people change with experience and age.

All the more reason nero should blame romulus, not the federation

Just like IRL when people blame their leaders for their woes and not the migrants living next door.....er right?

 

[Lord Garth]

A) Nero is an unreliable narrator, and B) Nero's family probably caught onto the fact that he's crazy and didn't want to live with him on a mining ship.

 

[Yistaan]

Why some people change with experience and age.



Just like IRL when people blame their leaders for their woes and not the migrants living next door.....er right?

Except Picard acts like he always acted that way. If he changed, it should be acknowledged explicitly, with the Romulans calling out his hypocrisy on past situations. That it isn't strikes me as lack of research by the writers, since Picard's turning the other way to dying primitives in the name of the Prime Directive was a massive (and controversial as seen on these forums) part of his character in TNG.

I strongly suspect the Picard show is going to turn Nero into that migrant next door who was refused asylum, going by this comic book (although he's the lone bad migrant in this scenario).

 

[Paul Weaver]

The comic says that the Romulans are keeping it secret. No doubt from their own people as well as from the rest of the galaxy. While Picard + co know that the supernova is going to happen, Nero + family are hapilly mining away in sector 47.

The star starts to go boom, Nero comes raving back to evacuate his family on his ship, and arrives just in time Spock (from the hated Federation) launching something into the star, the explosion happens, but it only affects Romulus, and the rest of the galaxy is safe. He's broken, and blames Spock for causing the supernova.

 

[Yistaan]

The comic says that the Romulans are keeping it secret. No doubt from their own people as well as from the rest of the galaxy. While Picard + co know that the supernova is going to happen, Nero + family are hapilly mining away in sector 47.

The star starts to go boom, Nero comes raving back to evacuate his family on his ship, and arrives just in time Spock (from the hated Federation) launching something into the star, the explosion happens, but it only affects Romulus, and the rest of the galaxy is safe. He's broken, and blames Spock for causing the supernova.

This actually might make sense. Considering the comic shows the Federation is bowing to the Romulans' wishes on everything and all their secrecy, this would confirm to Nero that the Federation is in on it. Doesn't explain why Nero shows no hatred towards Romulan command though in 2009 film.

 

[Paul Weaver]

It's been a while since I saw it, but did we see evidence that Nero knew the Romulans knew it was coming? He literally could think it was a federation plot headed by Spock to blow up the Romulan sun.

On Sep 11th, Bin Laden was blamed for attacking the twin towers, people didn't blame the US government for preventing the attack.

 

[ITDUDE]

McNeill should come back as Nick Locarno

Pretty sure same copyright law would still apply and writer of that episode would demand royalties.

 

[ITDUDE]

It's been a while since I saw it, but did we see evidence that Nero knew the Romulans knew it was coming? He literally could think it was a federation plot headed by Spock to blow up the Romulan sun.

On Sep 11th, Bin Laden was blamed for attacking the twin towers, people didn't blame the US government for preventing the attack.

As shown in ST09 it was implied it was all on short notice. It didn’t however explicitly say anything one way or the other.
As for 9/11... well... how far down the rabbit hole you wanna go?

 

[Paul Weaver]

As shown in ST09 it was implied it was all on short notice

Currently they think they have a year left. Picard will command the armada, but then it will suddenly be cut to hours

 

[Yistaan]

Currently they think they have a year left. Picard will command the armada, but then it will suddenly be cut to hours

If so, it will contradict spocks prime 129 years in the future line which locked the supernova to 2387, 2 years after this comics uss verity incident.

 

[WarpFactorZ]

If so, it will contradict spocks prime 129 years in the future line which locked the supernova to 2387, 2 years after this comics uss verity incident.

Maybe the comic takes place in December 2385, and the supernova happens in January 2387....