Spoilers Clues on Picard show from Picard Countdown comic (possible spoilers)
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We don't know if he saved them from the supernova or something else yet.
Also, it may be that the colony was a light year closer to Hobus than Romulus was.
The beginning of the comic, in 2386 with Picard's Romulan friends already setting up shop in his vineyard, strongly implies the supernova already happened. It seems strange the Romulans would feel so bleak if it hadn't happened yet.
Hmm I don't know if light years make a difference in magical supernovae that somehow threatens a galaxy (that's what Spock said).
Strangely enough no mention of Spock or Nero at all in the comic.
It seems pretty clear they retconned that, given they're just evacuating Romulan space, not the entire galaxy.
Well as an earlier post said here, the 2009 movie is officially canon and this comic is not. But since it's Spock saying it, maybe it's just his point of view and he got senile in his old age. Like the way he described Khan as the worst villain the 1701 ever faced, when he's clearly biased just because Khan killed him.
I like how this is working out.
The TNG Movies, especially Insurrection, notoriously simplified events on DS9. Going by FC, INS, and NEM, all you'd think is: we haven't heard from the Romulans in a while, there was a war with the Dominion, Remans were used by the Romulans in the Dominion War, and that's about it. Dominion Negotiations too. So you get the sense that something's going on, but you're like "What the what?"
Now, retroactively, Picard is like DS9 and the 2009 film is like the TNG Movies. If you just watch the movies, you know something went on, but you're like "What the what?" So PIC is filling in the details and revealing a much more complex story, the same way DS9 did.
It's like they took a tidbit from the 2009 film and reverse-engineered it for Picard's purposes.
I hope Worf isn't a captain. Not out of any spite for the character, but because I've always thought that what Sisko said about Worf probably never being offered a command of his own after the incident with Jadzia and the spy should turn out to be right in the long run, to show that certain happenings do have long-term consequences.
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Spock may have been speaking metaphorically. Basically the supernova itself will only hurt a section of Romulan space, but the resulting refugee crisis would "destroy" the galaxy.
Or maybe it's just that Starfleet is sure the Red Matter will work, but is unsure it will be able to deploy it quickly enough to make a difference for Romulus.
It is pretty clear if you look at the script the Hobus supernova already happened prior to Spock Prime setting out. He was trying to stop the shock wave (or whatever) from reaching Romulan space post-supernova, which he failed at doing. But it was not supposed to be instantaneous destruction due to the supernova - even if it was visually depicted in that manner (can't really remember).
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It's also unclear now why elderly frail Ambassador Spock would be sent on such an important mission to stop the supernova if the Federation knew about it for so long. My only guess is they knew the mission was likely fatal and Spock volunteered as he calculated he only had 5 years of natural life left (as seen in Star Trek Beyond).
It would be interesting if Spock's supposed death is in fact the catalyst for the android slaves we see in the Picard Trailer. The Federation doesn't want to risk any more lives to tasks that androids can do.
It would be interesting if Spock's supposed death is in fact the catalyst for the android slaves we see in the Picard Trailer. The Federation doesn't want to risk any more lives to tasks that androids can do.
I really hope Worf is indeed the captain of the enterprise. The fact they did not mention means the enterprise will appear in either issue 2 or 3. Am i the only one that finds it really unusual there has been no mention at all of Beverly.
There's been no reason to mention her yet.
The comic also says the evacuation has been going on for 4 years already. So they might be part of an earlier wave.
I'm thinking someone messed up and they used 2385 for the date of the supernova from the script of ST'09. The final movie has it explicitly in 2387 (which can be worked out from Spock's "129 years from now...") also.
Or maybe they had to...
...you know...
...make it 25% different
Or maybe they had to...
...you know...
...make it 25% different
Blast I forgot spocks 129 years from now line. There goes my theory of 2387 being a stardateI'm thinking someone messed up and they used 2385 for the date of the supernova from the script of ST'09. The final movie has it explicitly in 2387 (which can be worked out from Spock's "129 years from now...") also.
Or maybe they had to...
...you know...
...make it 25% different
Just read it. I like Musiker. Spoilers for the rest.
No surprise that the Romulan settling of worlds would include colonizing planets with an indigenous population. One issue that I might disagree with Picard on is that if the natives are pre-warp, then the Prime Directive would apply. Technically, Governor Shiana is in the right. The Romulans should be evacuated but not the indigenous people.
No surprise that the Romulan settling of worlds would include colonizing planets with an indigenous population. One issue that I might disagree with Picard on is that if the natives are pre-warp, then the Prime Directive would apply. Technically, Governor Shiana is in the right. The Romulans should be evacuated but not the indigenous people.
Pretty sure the Prime Directive doesn't apply to the slave race of a warp capable species.
It is a huge change of character for Picard though. Keep in mind he had no problem letting those primitive people Nikolai Rozhenko (Worf's adopted brother) lived with die from a natural disaster and lost absolutely no sleep over it (and even got mad Nikolai moved them to the holodeck).
Now he's having panic attacks on leaving a similar primitive species behind. I'm waiting for Q to appear to call Picard out on this double standard. Maybe the Romulans themselves should call him out on the double standard. Should we notify the comic writers of this episode?
I'm thinking someone messed up and they used 2385 for the date of the supernova from the script of ST'09. The final movie has it explicitly in 2387 (which can be worked out from Spock's "129 years from now...") also.
Or maybe they had to...
...you know...
...make it 25% different
That’s a good call about 2385 in the earlier script. But with the novels avoiding 2387 for years and Kirsten Beyer on board (and even co-writing this comic) you’d think it would have been spotted. Maybe there’s still an explanation to come.
Just read issue 1, was decent enough, not sure about the Odyssey class popping up since it’s from STO and it’s also 20 years too early, but I’m guessing it probably won’t appear onscreen.
Agree with comments above that the Enterprise will probably appear in one of the later issues.
I appreciate the inclusion of the Odyssey-class USS Verity. Imho, the ship looks really good from every perspective.
What do you guys think of the uniforms? Seems the Lower Decks color-jackets were as short lived as other known uniform styles. I hope we get to have the PIC - Countdown ones in STO as well.
What do you guys think of the uniforms? Seems the Lower Decks color-jackets were as short lived as other known uniform styles. I hope we get to have the PIC - Countdown ones in STO as well.
I'm guessing the difference here is the cat's out of the bag already. Even if they were pre-warp, the Romulans made first contact. Therefore they have knowledge of offworld life, are part of galactic civilization, and (at least in the Federation's mind) the Romulans have an obligation to help evacuate them as subjects (if not citizens) of the Romulan Empire.
