
Christmas wouldn't be Christmas without a climbing body count.As always, if you stop to consider what was happening off screen, the death toll from that giant robot stomping all over the place must have been enormous.![]()

um very few people died in the Christmas Invasion, The Runaway Bride again not many deaths (in the grand scheme of things), Voyage of the Dammed yeah ok most of the passengers died, but we have seen how that episode could have ended (Turn Left)Christmas wouldn't be Christmas without a climbing body count.As always, if you stop to consider what was happening off screen, the death toll from that giant robot stomping all over the place must have been enormous.![]()
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1) The Cyber-shades were crap. Utter shit. I mean, they're supposed to be converted animals, and successors to the Cybermats, but they fail because they're so obviously just extras in cheap gorilla suits. Animals have different legs than people, you see.
2) The explanation of where the Cybes come from. Why bother? They're Cybermen doing what Cybermen traditionally do, so why bother with the wanky explanation that depends on the casual viewer remembering the line about the void being dead from a story aired six months ago. Cos they won't, and this just goes great lengths to narrow down "oh they're the last Cybes left from the parallel universe" when they could just have cut the line and let people assume they're this universe's Cybes.

Oh, and so how the hell do the Pete's World Cybes know about the first nine Doctors or the Time Lords anyway? To know that stuff they have to be our universe's Cybermen.
that actually works better than the Dalek line.I imagine they found Torchwood's file on the Doctor and downloaded it from their computer system whilst they were in control of Torchwood One. Easy.
I dont disagree with the notion that the Daleks would have such a database, but its really very convenient that the Cybermen have it for this story.I'm guessing the Daleks just recorded images of encounters with each Doctor and I'm sure the Daleks must have taken over races with information and data on each Doctor
It was pretty much a Dalek Doctor Database, say that three times fast....
you are not wrongI dont disagree with the notion that the Daleks would have such a database, but its really very convenient that the Cybermen have it for this story.It was pretty much a Dalek Doctor Database, say that three times fast....
No more convenient than the TARDIS landing at JUST the right time to put the Doctor in a position to stop some evil being every week.
I dont recall the 8th Doctor meeting the Cybermen or the Daleks.A nice Christmas special. It's finally good to see it after all those months of speculation,leaked photos, leaked dialogue, and youtube behind the scenes clips like the doctor saying "oh! thats cheating! are your legs running on silent?"
Also the dialogue of "The Companion will do as the doctor say!"
I liked the flashes of the previous doctors. Funny how the Cybermen never met Doctor 9.
I dont recall the 8th Doctor meeting the Cybermen or the Daleks.A nice Christmas special. It's finally good to see it after all those months of speculation,leaked photos, leaked dialogue, and youtube behind the scenes clips like the doctor saying "oh! thats cheating! are your legs running on silent?"
Also the dialogue of "The Companion will do as the doctor say!"
I liked the flashes of the previous doctors. Funny how the Cybermen never met Doctor 9.

to quote the Doctor "stolen from the Daleks inside the void I'd say"I dont recall the 8th Doctor meeting the Cybermen or the Daleks.A nice Christmas special. It's finally good to see it after all those months of speculation,leaked photos, leaked dialogue, and youtube behind the scenes clips like the doctor saying "oh! thats cheating! are your legs running on silent?"
Also the dialogue of "The Companion will do as the doctor say!"
I liked the flashes of the previous doctors. Funny how the Cybermen never met Doctor 9.
oh right. Must be quiet about the plotholes![]()

Daleks: Time of the Daleks, Blood of the Daleks, War of the Daleks, Terror Firma, Fire and Brimstone, Children of the RevolutionI dont recall the 8th Doctor meeting the Cybermen or the Daleks.

I don't recall the 8th Doctor meeting the Cybermen or the Daleks.Funny how the Cybermen never met Doctor 9.
oh right. Must be quiet about the plotholes![]()
"Is that your sonic screwdriver?"
"Yes!"
"It's just a regu...What makes it sonic?"
"It makes a noise when you bang it."![]()

1) The Cyber-shades were crap. Utter shit. I mean, they're supposed to be converted animals, and successors to the Cybermats, but they fail because they're so obviously just extras in cheap gorilla suits. Animals have different legs than people, you see.
That was hilarious! I can't believe their pants survived that. Not that I want to see their bums or anything...The whole 'dragged along on their bums' bit was laugh out loud funny.


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