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Chakotay and Seska (Spoilers if you haven't watched S2)

I think it's a bit presumptuous though, to take someone else's creation and kill the character because you're tired of that character.
 
Really? Out of the first three seasons, it's my favourite so far. We all have different tastes I guess.

It did get better in the last third of the season. Just in the middle of it there was this drag of terrible to mediocre episodes that either had incredibly stupid premises or were disposable retreads. Between The Chute and Before & After the only good episode was Future's End, and almost half of the worst episodes in the entire series occur in that time frame. False Profits, Q And The Grey, Favorite Son.

I really liked Macrocosm, Coda, and Q And The Grey. Favourite Son I didn't like, because I find Harry to be extremely boring! Yes Future's End was amazing!
 
I was so disappointed with "Deadlock" when Harry definitely perishes in a hull breach (yeah! all right!), but he sort of comes back by the final fade out. But the episode has one of the best final lines in the show.
 
The Q and the Grey is completely tedious.

They could have at least set it during something less overused than the american civil war or the american anything. OR how about being creative like DS9 was with the Bell Riots, setting it in our the viewers future but VOY's past. You know, actual science fiction rather than exhausted retread.

Well teacake I must respectfully disagree with you. I loved that episode. I didn't care for the civil war subplot but I loved Janeway and Q's interactions. It was the first episode I watched that had me LOL.
 
Q and Janeway get much better together later on.

I hope I never see another civil or revolutionary war theme in sci fi again, but this is probably wishful thinking.
 
Or another post-World War III setting. Mad Max and its copycats exhausted that idea long ago.
 
At least with that you can inject anything you want into it. The post apocalypse can take on any form. Unlike real wars that are presented as well loved cliches.
 
The Q and the Grey is completely tedious.

They could have at least set it during something less overused than the american civil war or the american anything. OR how about being creative like DS9 was with the Bell Riots, setting it in our the viewers future but VOY's past. You know, actual science fiction rather than exhausted retread.

Well teacake I must respectfully disagree with you. I loved that episode. I didn't care for the civil war subplot but I loved Janeway and Q's interactions.

It was the first episode I watched that had me LOL.


Miss Q: I'm not talking about the puppy! :devil:
 
The Q and the Grey is completely tedious.

They could have at least set it during something less overused than the american civil war or the american anything. OR how about being creative like DS9 was with the Bell Riots, setting it in our the viewers future but VOY's past. You know, actual science fiction rather than exhausted retread.

Well teacake I must respectfully disagree with you. I loved that episode. I didn't care for the civil war subplot but I loved Janeway and Q's interactions.

It was the first episode I watched that had me LOL.


Miss Q: I'm not talking about the puppy! :devil:

What a b*tch the Lady Q was! I like how Q calls Janeway ''Kathy'' and she just lets him:)
 
I felt Q and the Grey was one of the worst episodes in Trek, and it was a huge mistake to give humans influence like that over Q politics and ridiculous to let them hold a Q hostage just because 'What they see as a gun as actually a Q superweapon'. One of those episodes where they had to severely weaken an established force just to make the story possible and make all Q seem petty, stupid and incompetent.
 
I was so disappointed with "Deadlock" when Harry definitely perishes in a hull breach (yeah! all right!), but he sort of comes back by the final fade out. But the episode has one of the best final lines in the show.

I always wondered if maybe "Deadlock" is the real reason why Harry stayed perpetually an Ensign for the entire show. Because, as we know, the real Harry was going to have been on the fast-track to the Admiralty and have a swish apartment with a cute girlfriend and a cool Runabout and loads of blow and stuff, but then he went and died, and the 'new' Harry that replaced him from the duplicate ship was actually a non-person on our plane of existence, and therefore ineligible for a promotion even to mop duty, let alone being allowed the dignity of having basic human rights.

Poor Naomi Wildman ended up with the same non-person fate, of course. But I guess at least being a non-person is better than being a dead-person, eh? :techman:
 
Speaking of Naomi, I noticed in ''Deadlock'' she wasn't named and in ''Basics Part 2'' she is only referred to as ''the baby''. When is her name known?

I haven't got to the seasons where she is out and about on the ship but I do know of her.
 
As far I can recall, "Mortal Coil" is the first one where she is actually named on screen (although I might be wrong about that). :)
 
After watching Basics Part 2 we find out that Seska's baby is not Chakotay's as everyone thought. Did the Doctor ever tell him? Or is it just assumed that he was told?

I want to know what happened to Seska's baby AND the lizard children. You haven't gotten to them yet.
 
Okay I am a little slow. But which ep had a Borg baby? Sorry it has been a few years since I done a run through of Voyager.
 
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