This, plus it was basically a modernized, precision-strike version of the Red Skull's plan in the first film.
Captain America: The Winter Soldier Discussion Thread - SPOILERS
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What HYDRA was becoming was shown in the first movie when the Red Skull killed the Nazi officials present, and then stated that HYDRA could no longer advance under Hitler's shadow. From then on, HYDRA was it's own master, and would have take over the world utilizing the big bomber to destroy all of the major cities. Zola was just stating what HYDRA did in retrenching itself and coming back under cover of SHIELD.
My favorite lines in the film were when Black Widow asked the Captain if that was his first kiss since 1945 and when she said "Bye bye bikinis".
"Yeah, I bet you look terrible in them."
Just got back from seeing it a second time, it's still excellent. It played even better the second time (and I caught the Dr. Strange shout out this time).
I shied away from bringing this up the first time for fear of spoilers (even though it was out for a week when I first saw it) but am absolutely in love with the stinger that introduces us to QuickSilver and Scarlet Witch. If I was unsure of either of the actors pulling it off, I was convinced in that short glimpse of them. Age of miracles indeed.
And did you like how I didn't even bring up a comparison to Evan Peter's version of the character
I shied away from bringing this up the first time for fear of spoilers (even though it was out for a week when I first saw it) but am absolutely in love with the stinger that introduces us to QuickSilver and Scarlet Witch. If I was unsure of either of the actors pulling it off, I was convinced in that short glimpse of them. Age of miracles indeed.
And did you like how I didn't even bring up a comparison to Evan Peter's version of the character
By the by, here's some interesting design material for the Insight-class 'Carriers.
http://www.timflattery.com/work/captain-america-winter-soldier/
http://www.timflattery.com/work/captain-america-winter-soldier/
^I want model kits of all of the vehicles in the movie! And I wanted them yesterday, from AMT, Revell, Monogram, whoever.
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I liked it, and voted "Good". Not "Excellent" like IM3 and Thor2, but Good. I really like Cap the character, and have complete respect for Evans, but missed the element of a really zany personality in the mix, a Tony Stark or a Loki.
My biggest complaint by far was, am I really the only one massively bothered by the editing in the action? We're talking Transformers ROTF-speed cutting here. Example: Cap taking down the plane over the bridge was great, but there were probably something like thirty edits in under a minute. Whereas when Leggy took down that Mûmakil all by himself, there were probably a third or fourth as many shots, each lasting three to four times longer. Seeing this in 3D would almost certainly be a massive headache. This was the first MCU film to let me down in that technical respect, hard.
Maybe those sequences will play better on a smaller/home screen, but I kinda doubt it. Super-fast jittery action works for The Bourne Ultimatum and Battle: LA, because those protagonists were mentally broken and/or scared out of their minds. But Cap is an old-fashioned man of resolve, so the shots should have been much longer.
My biggest complaint by far was, am I really the only one massively bothered by the editing in the action? We're talking Transformers ROTF-speed cutting here. Example: Cap taking down the plane over the bridge was great, but there were probably something like thirty edits in under a minute. Whereas when Leggy took down that Mûmakil all by himself, there were probably a third or fourth as many shots, each lasting three to four times longer. Seeing this in 3D would almost certainly be a massive headache. This was the first MCU film to let me down in that technical respect, hard.
Maybe those sequences will play better on a smaller/home screen, but I kinda doubt it. Super-fast jittery action works for The Bourne Ultimatum and Battle: LA, because those protagonists were mentally broken and/or scared out of their minds. But Cap is an old-fashioned man of resolve, so the shots should have been much longer.
No. The first one was blown in two, smashed into the launch base taking both out.
The second was being crushed against the building and once the building collapsed, would completely come down on top of it crushing it fully, or exploding it's power plant.
The third exploded mostly in the air as Cap fell from it, what was left would have scattered badly on impact.
Black Widow refers to it all as one big pile of wreckage afterwards.
Early Easter Weekend Estimates indicate Captain America claimed the #1 spot at the North American box office for the third week in a row with $26.6m and placing it's domestic total over the next milestone with a total of $201m!
Normally 3 weeks at number one is tough feat but this year LEGO Movie and Ride Along also managed a threepeat. So the question is can CA:TWS hold off the comedy The Other Woman next weekend and become the first 4-peat?? It's sure to have a 45-50% drop next weekend so Other Woman and/or other openers need to do poorly for that to happen.
$200m in 17 days, Marvel Studios the hits maker. Disney is going to have that $4B investment paid off way quicker than anyone, or them, might've thought. Especially when you include merchandising into the bottom line!!
Normally 3 weeks at number one is tough feat but this year LEGO Movie and Ride Along also managed a threepeat. So the question is can CA:TWS hold off the comedy The Other Woman next weekend and become the first 4-peat?? It's sure to have a 45-50% drop next weekend so Other Woman and/or other openers need to do poorly for that to happen.
$200m in 17 days, Marvel Studios the hits maker. Disney is going to have that $4B investment paid off way quicker than anyone, or them, might've thought. Especially when you include merchandising into the bottom line!!
Yeah, it was the second one really. It seemed to be grinding along and glancing off the Trillion. I could picture it crashlanding severely damaged but not written off.
Whatever SHIELD becomes would do better rebuilding one than starting from scratch. Presumably, the previous helicarrier is still around too...
The act 3 fight, involving more "comic book-y" action, was more traditionally edited. The quick cuts were reserved for the "traditional" action sequences like the car chase or the Triskelion escape.
I'm not sure that I agree with the directors' choice, but at least they didn't blindly (ab)use that tool.
Triskelion.
And it was smashing into a building, the frame and most systems would be crushed and severely damaged on that side. And we didn't see the full aftermath, the building would have come down, taking it's full weight down right into the carrier.
Shield no longer existing means the government will likely confiscate anything Shield related making sure Hydra cannot claim it. Whether they can even repair it, digging it out from that much rubble, remains to be seen.
Why do they even call it the Triskelion, anyway? I'm assuming it's a reference to how the U.S. Department of Defense headquarters is called the Pentagon (owing to its shape), but neither of the buildings in both TWS and the comics look anything like a triskelion to me.
The three outer ring type structures, presumably, three of them in a triangular arrangement with the main core of the building inside them, based very losely on the symbol.
