True. It could have come from one of 60s era library books about space or science fiction.
Spoilers Canon, Continuity, and Pike's Accident
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To be fair, they've had the data discs in the current 23rd century shows since Discovery Season 1.
Hey, look, a whole thread on it!
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Celebrating SNW Production Design
A discussion in General Trek led me to spend some time today going through Strange New Worlds and finding those instances where the production designers of the show went out of their way to update something that we’ve seen on the original series. And even thought I already knew just how much...
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Do you mean the ship itself, or just the rooms?
Because they're going to have to make a lot of the rooms (such as the crew quarters) smaller, since the crew is going to more than double in size somewhere in between SNW and TOS.
This is because SNW has a crew complement of 203, like in "The Cage", but it will be 430 during the events of TOS. So somewhere along the line, there WILL be a massive refit coming.
Reasonable to expect things to change based upon mission parameters.
The first two films are masterworks of visual design. They're also modern classics. The first film is trendsetting and highly influential. The first two Alien films are anything but [something that should be hauled away as] "garbage".
Wasn't the original idea for the TMP movie that it was TOS but redone with a movie budget?
I so want SNW!Enterprise to be the final Enterprise when the show passes the baton from Pike to Kirk.
Get that zoomby from the TOS credits with the theme tingle.
I so want SNW!Enterprise to be the final Enterprise when the show passes the baton from Pike to Kirk.
Get that zoomby from the TOS credits with the theme tingle.
If they ever call me up to be the showrunner for the final season, I'll have the last episode end with the Enterprise getting utterly wrecked doing something incredibly noble and Starfleet, with Pike's kitchen exploding in tragic slow motion. But then we see it being repaired at the end, with a smaller bridge module being added on top and new impulse engines fitted etc. Kirk rides up to the space dock on his space bike and sees his new ship being reconstructed in the distance, the end.
Of course.
Let me just say much of the visual excellence of the original film can be appreciated by watching just the part before the chestburster scene, which is about up to when John Hurt's character wakes back up. You see the hero ship, its computer interface, the moon landing and exploration, and the derelict ship.
Likewise, in the sequel, the landing sequence from when the Marines assemble for the drop mission up to and including their deployment into the colony gives you at least one good sample of its visual accomplishments.
The novelization actually written by Roddenberry actually states that TOS was only a dramatic interpretation of the Enterprise's missions, which included in inaccurate look to the Enterprise, its interiors and Starfleet uniforms as well as things like how the Klingons looked and what we see in TMP was meant to be the "true way" things are.
Of course, even Gene Himself later said He considers His own novelization to be non-canon.
Yeah, day job...
If I could have those sequences without the titular creature I'd be fine with it.
Well, you can ignore actual ST lore, but this is not the Fan Fiction section.
Star Wars can generally get away with what seems to be technological stagnation or some regress (OT < PT) because SW is a fantasy setting. ST is (non-retro) science fiction.
I'm unsure of the connection between a fantasy setting and technical stagnation.
Its not mutually exclusive, sci-fi can present technological stagnation or regression quite easily, even when it's supposed to be our future.
Pike told Una to rip the whole hologram systems out, saying that they'll just go back to communicating using "good old-fashioned viewscreens," and noting that he never liked the holograms anyway because they looked like ghosts.
They went back to using simpler tech because...reasons. So, there is a precedent.
Plus, I don't nessarily think that TOS tech is less advanced that what we see in SNW, it just appears that way. Same with the original Star Wars films. YMMV of course.
I'd presume that there is less of a focus on tech within a fantasy setting than within a Sci Fi setting purely from the names of the genres
I guess the argument would be that there is no reason fantasy can't mesh with tech (Warhammer 40k for example) but it is a bonus rather than a feature
Star Wars actually showed technology improving, as the fighters required hyperdrive rings in the prequel trilogy. Things were just shinier before the galactic war and oppressive empire, especially as the story was following royalty and Jedi heroes, not smugglers and moisture farmers.
I don't see TOS as being technologically less advanced than SNW in the slightest, the ship just looks more practical and less flashy, as you'd expect when twice the crew are packed into the same space. I mean the TOS bridge still performs all the same functions, just in a smaller room. The ship still has the transporter and the warp drive, which are 1 billion times more advanced than LED strips and widescreen viewscreens.
Okay the computer noises are bad, I'll give you that.
Correct me if I am wrong as my knowledge of the EU is purely story and post Endor but I always saw the hyperdrive rings as being an affectation more than a lack of tech.
They could clearly fit hyperdrives to fighters in that era (think the Z-95 was knocking about then) and it was almost like Jedi being carried aloft for all to see in their pretty sleek ships
Happy to be corrected though if wrong
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