I don't think this thread would have gotten half the attention that it did if it had been just a question mark in the first place...
Brian Brophy didn’t return?
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Considering the other recast in this episode, I am beginning to think Maddox was recast so the producers could say "Hey it's not personal to anyone or about anything, we recast everyone in this episode". As it is it now seems Maddox is a one off part anyway. It's not like Brophy was denied a starring regular part in the show (unless Maddox isn't really dead).
Ok. I'll do it, then.
All this emphasis on Maddox and even Hugh on the show makes Geordi's absence more glaring. Geordi would want to be part of his friend Data's legacy. Geordi might even be angry Picard didn't tell him about Soji and Dahj. A big deal of Hugh's friendship with Geordi was made that seemingly went nowhere.
Picard showrunners said they wanted to bring TNG characters who were organic to the storyline. We're 5 episodes in and I can't see why Riker and Troi being in the show make more sense than Geordi.
Picard showrunners said they wanted to bring TNG characters who were organic to the storyline. We're 5 episodes in and I can't see why Riker and Troi being in the show make more sense than Geordi.
Apparently there’s some unwritten rule that Riker and Troi have to appear in at least one episode of every Trek series ever made since TNG. The only one Troi missed was DS9, but her mom went in her place. So expect to see them in DSC season three in an episode where Michael Burnham comes across a suspended animation booth on 33rd century Earth and finds them there.
It just seems like a wasted opportunity to me. I mean, half the appeal of this show is the return of actors from a while ago. Including a not-recast Hugh??
Yet they bring back Picard, Data, Riker, Troi, and will Guinan and probably the rest of the TNG cast as the series goes on. Hell, we might see Ro — she was badass on Galactica. Plus they chose to bring back this specific character.
I don’t see why the appeal of other cute cameos is met with such negativity here. I think it has to do with a need accept only what’s aired, being used to disappointment, and silencing other opinions. Especially ones thought to be of the hyperbolic noise seen everywhere these days.
Are we now going to argue that Maddox is on the same level as Picard, Data, Riker, Troi, Guinan and Ro?
Negativity? Because I think it is unnecessary?
They should have never returned in the first place. This entire series is a lazy afternoon daydream come true. The idea that Patrick Stewart would return in a new Star Trek series? That’s absolute fantasy, yet here we are, and it’s awesome.Are we now going to argue that Maddox is on the same level as Picard, Data, Riker, Troi, Guinan and Ro?
Yes, I certainly felt it in this thread, including from you specifically. Some of your comments struck me as trolling.Negativity? Because I think it is unnecessary?
And if we’re going to talk about the communication of punctuation, I would also say we do the same for emojis.
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While I agree that it is unnecessary I still don't equate characters who appeared in more than episode to a singular performance. Mileage will vary.
Then please report me. That's what the report button is for.
Or, at least do me the courtesy of providing examples of what is trolling. For the record, disagreement with people is not trolling. Nor is the fact that I find the emotions demonstrated towards this one character rather odd, to say the least.
The point remains that this entire series is astonishing for the return of characters. Including minor ones like Hugh. And from other series like Seven. When they then also talk about the return of Maddox in every single episode since the pilot, it is not at all unexpected that some might expect the return of, or at least the invitation to, of that actor too.
Thank you. In the future, I will. Currently I’d rather prefer to discuss other things.
Would you say the thread ran its course, and now you'd like to see it closed by a Mod?
In that vein I suppose I can see the expectation. And perhaps that's the trouble for me. I don't have an expectation for this series. It can go wherever it wants to. Wasn't expecting Hugh or Seven to come back but they did and OK, I guess that's fine.
Again, it's the drum beat of negativity against the production team for not contacting an actor who had a one off performance that strikes me as incredibly strange.
By all means, show me where I was trolling. I'll amend or clarify but I don't appreciate being told that I'm a problem without proof.
So your problem is that you lumped me in with the caustic negativity we all experience on the internet and not my point, which you see now maybe isn’t simply being negative for its own sake. Thanks.
No, I’d rather discuss other things.
None of this is meant to be personal. It is rather impossible for it to be so on the Internet, and inherently impersonal medium.
However, I apologize if it came across as personal.
As I stated, I do not share the passion or the drive to see a one time performer come back. I am more interested in the character and continuity of consequences in a show than who is giving the performance. Not that actors are not a part of that, because that is demonstrably not true. But, in this case, I cannot equate Maddox with other recurring actors. I would have the same reaction if Okana came back and he was recast. The character, not the actor, the story, not the BTS drama, is important to me.
Mileage varies.
I agree with others that the role in MOAM just wasn't that memorable. There's nothing about it that demands a specific actor, unless you expect the character to look the same. John Ales isn't exactly a big name, but he has been more active in the industry in recent years than Brian Brophy. And to be honest, there really wasn't much to the character in PIC 1x05 either. He was just this angsty guy wincing in pain from being beaten. It was a throwaway role in TNG, and it was a throwaway role in PIC. Does that really demand high acting chops? Did Ales bring anything to this role that Brophy couldn't have? I guess we'll never know.
And perhaps Brophy is perfectly happy in his academic role. Some may find that environment more suited to their professional preferences than the rat race of Hollywood (although by some accounts, there's plenty of cutthroat, back-stabbing office politics in the academic world too). BTW, I'm very tempted to cite the old adage of "Those who can, do...." But I won't.
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And perhaps Brophy is perfectly happy in his academic role. Some may find that environment more suited to their professional preferences than the rat race of Hollywood (although by some accounts, there's plenty of cutthroat, back-stabbing office politics in the academic world too). BTW, I'm very tempted to cite the old adage of "Those who can, do...." But I won't.
Kor
Yeah. I personally see this more as fan service to story service.
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