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At least 12 killed, 50 injured at midnight showing of Batman movie

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Bale w/one of the Victims in Aurora, today. He met with a number of them, apparently. This is just the only photo atm.

News story: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/31301174/detail.html


Good for Bale. I think that's a very classy thing to do.

Yeah, that's really awesome of him.
 
Captain's log, stardate 07.04.2012: Went to sick bay to visit with the red shirts who were injured when the holodeck safeties malfunctioned at their Aurora mining colony, and let one take some shots of me with his holo-imager.

Another photo here: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/07/24/christian-bale-visits-colorado-shooting-victims/

Bale also visited a makeshift memorial to the victims near the theater. He walked past the 12 crosses erected for each of the slain victims, with many people there not realizing who he was.

ETA: Another photo here: https://twitter.com/SwedishColorado/status/227878254973968384/photo/1
 
RoJoHen said:
I could maybe see "racism" if this was 2008 and Obama had just been elected. Black President, oh no! But the dude has been in office for 4 years.

That's funny, I thought I was talking about 2008.

Rhaven said:
got your number now though.

So you've got me figured out the same way you've got Obama figured out, eh? :lol:

which is probably closely related to the reason Eric Holder was cited with contempt of Congress over Fast & Furious

I thought the reason Holder was cited with contempt over Fast & Furious was to neutralize his attempts to prevent the Republicans from stealing another election by denying the voting rights of blacks. Oh well.

gturner said:
One of the reasons gun owners worry about Obama is his statement to Sarah Brady that he was working on gun control under the radar

So how exactly does a 2011 incident explain 2008? ( Since this is a Trek board, it is permitted to include red matter black hole time travel in your answer. )

gturner said:
Part of what government can do for small-town America is to take bribe money from the Sinaloa Cartel (for providing them guns and cracking down on California's medical marijuana industry which is cutting in to Sinaloa turf), and use it to help small-time psychotics who don't have insider ties to big drug cartels, child slavery rings, international arms smugglers, or the African diamond trade. This can help them start a crack business, a meth lab, or gain notoriety by gunning down random people.

Right, NIH grants come from the Sinaloa Cartel and are intended to be used for meth labs and random shootings.

Your tinfoil hat is showing.
 
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Let's see.

If you want a history lesson in racism, and want to understand why some people are equating the right's criticism of the President with racism, here is an article:

http://www.authentichistory.com/diversity/african/3-coon/6-monkey/index.html

I know that people are asking why President Obama doesn't do more. The reason is that the Constitution gives the power to create laws to the Congress which is reluctant to anger the NRA. The President can give recommendations to his party, but it's up to the party to act on his recommendations.

There is a new article on the shooter. He was able to purchase 30 grenades, and these grenades were found in his apartment.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/24/james-eagen-holmes-apartm_n_1699799.html
 
I thought the reason Holder was cited with contempt over Fast & Furious was to neutralize his attempts to prevent the Republicans from stealing another election by denying the voting rights of blacks. Oh well.

Um, no. It has nothing to do with Holder refusing to enforce the voting rights act, which he refused to do. It has to do with stonewalling, perjury, obstruction of a Congressional investigation, and evidence from wiretap applications that the highest levels of the DOJ were informed of and knew about the guns being sent to Mexican drug cartels, in violation of numerous federal laws aimed at federal agencies and department heads, some of which carry 10-year jail sentences and some of which carry 30-year jail sentences, along with about $2 billion dollars in fines.

gturner said:
One of the reasons gun owners worry about Obama is his statement to Sarah Brady that he was working on gun control under the radar

So how exactly does a 2011 incident explain 2008? ( Since this is a Trek board, it is permitted to include red matter black hole time travel in your answer. )

Because he's a liberal from Chicago who in 1996 answered a political questionaire as follows:

Do you support state legislation to:
a. ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns? Yes.
b. ban assault weapons? Yes.
c. mandatory waiting periods and background checks? Yes.


Later he claimed the answers were from one of his staffers.

In 2000 he sponsored a bill to limit hand gun purchases.

In 2001 he said, "We're calling for handgun registration."

In October of 2004 he said, "I think it is a scandal that this president did not authorize a renewal of the assault weapons ban."

In 2007 Obama called for a permanent assault weapons ban.

In January of 2008 he said: "The efforts by law enforcement to obtain the information required to trace back guns that have been used in crimes to unscrupulous gun dealers. As president, I intend to make it happen." And he did, with Fast & Furious, which killed countless Mexicans and one to two US federal agents.

So gee, why would anyone think Obama wanted to restrict guns? Because they'd been listening to Obama. He does speak from time to time.


Right, NIH grants come from the Sinaloa Cartel and are intended to be used for meth labs and random shootings.

Your tinfoil hat is showing.

No, the Sinaloa Cartel doesn't actually want meth labs in competition with them. That's just crazy.

But the NIH can't study people's psychological responses to mass shootings unless there are mass shootings. So occassionally somebody writes up a grant proposal saying, "Hey, I propose to cause mass casualties at a Batman movie to see how the crowd responds, using viewers of a nearby Katy Perry movie as a control group." And someone at the NIH looks at it and thinks "It would be useful to compare the responses of action-movie fans with pop-star booby-movie fans, in case there's a terrorist attack on a twinplex." So the NIH asks the guy what he needs, and he lists all the guns and explosives it'll take, and then they approve the project.
 
I wonder if Bale used his Batman voice while visiting.

Seriously though, it is cool, he and Perlman have been awesome.
 
So occassionally somebody writes up a grant proposal saying, "Hey, I propose to cause mass casualties at a Batman movie to see how the crowd responds, using viewers of a nearby Katy Perry movie as a control group." And someone at the NIH looks at it and thinks "It would be useful to compare the responses of action-movie fans with pop-star booby-movie fans, in case there's a terrorist attack on a twinplex." So the NIH asks the guy what he needs, and he lists all the guns and explosives it'll take, and then they approve the project.
:guffaw:

gturner said:
Um, no. It has nothing to do with Holder refusing to enforce the voting rights act

Sure. ;)
 
In regards to the lawsuits, I suppose it is inevitable since people always sue after tragedies. Mind you, I'm not sure if there's really any grounds for a lawsuit here.

Suing Warner really makes no sense. It's not their fault someone chose their movie to commit this crime.

Suing the theatre won't accomplish anything. This is unprecedented and I don't see how they could have prepared for or prevented it.
 
Suing the theatre won't accomplish anything. This is unprecedented and I don't see how they could have prepared for or prevented it.

I don't know. If there had been a single cop car patrolling the parking lot the night this happened, the killer might have been caught before all this happened.

Even a theater employee shutting the door after this guy went out to get his guns would have prevented this.

It would have helped if theater owners actually gave a crap about security.

I agree that these lawsuits are dumb though.
 
Bale at the memorial outside the theater.

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Last one is... I know he's an oscar winning actor, but, you can see the humanity in his eyes there. :'(
 
Yeah, he looks pretty shaken up.

But the blonde woman with the camera and the man in the white shirt and dark glasses clearly recognized him, like "Hey, isn't that Batman?" which shows the whole idea of pretending to be Bruce Wayne is a farce. If people in Colorado recognize Batman in street clothes, you know anyone in Gotham City would.

Also, if Batman would use guns he wouldn't have to catch the same dozen psychotic mass murders sixteen times apiece, and wouldn't constantly find himself trapped in giant hourglasses, or under swinging pendulums, or hanging upsidedown over a tank of sharks.
 
One of the reasons gun owners worry about Obama is his statement to Sarah Brady that he was working on gun control under the radar...
And I'm sure you can provide a valid cite for that claim?
Allow me.
And for those opposed to anything FoxNews (don't really blame you), here are some others:
Politifact
Examiner
FreeRepublic
And there are a few others out there, but you get the point...

Edit: Then there's this curious link that says the administration's statement that Sarah Brady trumpeted was actually exaggerated by the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence to make it sound like it had more support than it really did. Gotta love politicians...
Every one of those links say "Sarah Brady claims (bold mine) that Barrack Obama is working on gun control over the radar".

I could claim I'm Tars Tarkas, Jedak of the Tharks, but that doesn't mean I actually am.
 
But the blonde woman with the camera and the man in the white shirt and dark glasses clearly recognized him, like "Hey, isn't that Batman?" which shows the whole idea of pretending to be Bruce Wayne is a farce. If people in Colorado recognize Batman in street clothes, you know anyone in Gotham City would.

I think your argument would work better if he was in costume and they were able to say "Hey, isn't that Christian Bale?".

Would work even better if it was some other famous actor in the batsuit and they could easily ID them.
 
Every one of those links say "Sarah Brady claims (bold mine) that Barrack Obama is working on gun control over the radar".

I could claim I'm Tars Tarkas, Jedak of the Tharks, but that doesn't mean I actually am.

And Barack Obama could claim to be President, but until something disproves it, we all have to assume he is. In this case neither Obama nor Sarah Brady did anything to dispel the belief that he'd said he was working on gun control under the radar (under, not over), and since the quote is a commonly held belief among all gun owners (along with all the gun control things Obama definitely did say), they are perfectly justified in thinking that he'd like to take away their guns. So they stockpile.

A government that is willing to directly contribute to the deaths of thousands of innocent Mexicans in what amounted to an act of war against a peaceful ally and neighbor, just to get more guns tracked to an FBI database, is capable of pretty much anything. That's why the Congressional vote to forever ban such a heinous program, once it came to light, was unanimous, and why Eric Holder's refusal to provide documents resulted in history's first Contempt of Congress citation for an Attorney General.
 
But the blonde woman with the camera and the man in the white shirt and dark glasses clearly recognized him, like "Hey, isn't that Batman?" which shows the whole idea of pretending to be Bruce Wayne is a farce. If people in Colorado recognize Batman in street clothes, you know anyone in Gotham City would.

I think your argument would work better if he was in costume and they were able to say "Hey, isn't that Christian Bale?".

Would work even better if it was some other famous actor in the batsuit and they could easily ID them.

George Clooney? Val Kilmer? Michael Keaton? Would anybody recognize Michael Keaton even if they checked his ID?
 
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