Spoilers Arrow - Season 6

[Romulan_spy]

After Canary and Siren used their respective cries consecutively, it got me wondering what would happen if they both screamed at the same thing simultaneously. Maybe we'll find out next season.

Well, from a physics point of view, when two waves of the same frequency overlap and are in phase with each other, there is "constructive interference" where the amplitude is magnified. So if Canary and Siren were able to match frequencies and phases perfectly, they could create a much more powerful sonic blast. Conversely, two waves of the same frequency that are out of phase, cancel each other out. So Canary and Siren could use that effect to blast an area, while leaving a safe "dead zone" in the middle. So, yes, they could do some pretty cool things if they joined forces.

 

[Christopher]

^Well, Canary (or Siren) Cries do not obey normal physics. As we saw last night, and on a few other occasions, Canary and Siren's sonic screams can push things in a way actual sound waves don't. If you were hit by a super-intense blast of sound, it wouldn't send you flying through the air, it'd just induce intense pressure shifts inside your body fluids and tissues as it passed through them and maybe rupture your organs or something.

 

[Romulan_spy]

^Well, Canary (or Siren) Cries do not obey normal physics. As we saw last night, and on a few other occasions, Canary and Siren's sonic screams can push things in a way actual sound waves don't. If you were hit by a super-intense blast of sound, it wouldn't send you flying through the air, it'd just induce intense pressure shifts inside your body fluids and tissues as it passed through them and maybe rupture your organs or something.

True. But I still think it would be cool if they did something science-like with their powers. Maybe it's just the physics major in me.

 

[Christopher]

I do wonder what the generic name for that power set is, though. The Flash, Kid Flash, Jessie Quick, etc. are speedsters. Vibe and Gypsy are breachers. So what are Black Siren and Dinah? Screamers? Criers?

 

[Kor]

In case it counts for anything, Wikipedia has a broad category of "Fictional characters who can manipulate sound" that includes Black Canary and Banshee, among others.

If a screamer was about to attack me, I would really hope they hadn't eaten something heavy on onions or garlic beforehand.

Kor

 

[Marc]

Also Rene is really becoming an awesome character.

After his phone call with Zoe I expected him to tell Oliver that he was out because of that's two times in a the space of a few months where his daughter nearly wound up an orphan (well greater chance than normal).

 

[Christopher]

Honestly, what bugged me about that whole trap with the bombs is that it was screamingly obvious that it was a trap. The moment Diaz handed Anatoly the paper with the location, said "Be there in an hour," and left, I knew it was a test to see if Anatoly was the one leaking info to Team Arrow (by seeing whether they showed up at that fake location or not), and I hoped Anatoly was enough of a cagey beast to see through the obvious ploy -- after all, it's just the sort of thing people in the Bratva would probably do to identify traitors. So it annoyed me that he and the others just walked right into the trap.

 

[FreezeC77]

I just never can see Diaz as a viable one on one fighting opponent.

Oliver has fought and defeated an immortal assassin with magic in Damian Darhk, another immortal who may have been one of the most skilled fighters ever in Ra's Al Ghul, an extremely skilled mercenary/assassin who made been enhanced with strength thanks to Mirukuru.

A fight with Diaz should be 10 secs long.

 

[Romulan_spy]

A fight with Diaz should be 10 secs long.

Even less. We've seen Oliver take out 3 henchmen at the same in less than second with a well placed arrow shots. Even if, as Christopher pointed out earlier, there are reasons to keep Diaz alive, Oliver still could have incapacitated Diaz with a lightning fast non-lethal arrow in less than a second. There was no reason at all to engage in weary hand to hand combat with Diaz where there was a chance Diaz might escape.

 

[Morpheus 02]

The thign is...EVERYONE underestimates Diaz... like Anatoly...as we find out a few minutes later, Diaz knows Russian...so i bet there's a lot more we don't know. His "rise" has been as a "thug" but that might be a cover... especialy if he has been trained by these Longbow Hunters, and didn't come to them until necessary.

Also, i wonder if part of the deal Ollie struck was ALSO keeping Diaz alive -- so that would "justify" FBI involvement...death is a little too convenient and suspicious. A trial makes it plain why other deaths were needed.

Hmm... If Diggle starts wearing that suit Ollie gave him during the midseason interim, maybe we could end up with a status quo whereby Team Arrow is acting officially on behalf of the government as a peacekeeping force in Star City. After all, the entire police force is now dismantled, and the FBI is staying around to take care of things. Maybe we could see the team working with the FBI and/or ARGUS as a sort of SWAT team. That would certainly be an interesting change. (Though if so, I really hope their FBI contact isn't Samanda Watson. I dislike both the character and the actress.)

So what don't you like about her? I noticed you didn't comment on her looks, like you do with female characters you like.

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No one is bothered by Team Arrow rnning around SCPD uncovered? Umm...cameras? Other non-high-security clearnace running around everywhere. I mean, it makes sense with Watson, since she knows. But just walking around EVERYWHERE? That just seems dumb.

As others mentioned...I wonder if this will be the SuperMax storyline, since it doesn't looklke that will happen in the near future (even in the DC FU).

I *really* wish they would get rid of Laurel... as i mentioned she is like Ali Larter on Heroes or Brett Dalton on Agents of SHIELD. Dinah and Sarah have been far better Canaries (and i would have preferred Sara with Ollie)

Oh..and it looks like Ollie's son will have to be homeschooled now...

 

[Jax]

The season ended in a much better state than what came before it and the last few episodes were quite the enjoyable ride. I think at this point Arrow would benefit from shorter seasons but that's not going to happen and I doubt the 7th season will be the last.

 

[tomalak301]

On the one hand, I agree that Sara could've used more screen time. On the other hand, she couldn't show up until after the action, or she could've brought in the Legends and the Waverider to fix everything. So they couldn't really do more with her. But at least she got to meet Laurel-2 at last and we got to see what that was like. Good to get confirmation that she already knew about Black Siren, which is only logical given that she was in Star City between seasons.

See, this is something I would have liked in the season premiere to Season 7. You have all this action and then in the premiere you can deal with the aftermath of Sara showing up, Ollie in Prison and where Team Arrow goes from there. It would have also given Lotz a lot more screen time to share the grief of losing her father and having to deal with Siren still being there or something to that effect. It just seemed like to only get Lotz for 5 minutes of screen time wasn't worth it considering the context of the rest of the episode.

 

[FreezeC77]

Oliver was imprisoned on federal crimes so no double jeopardy, the team was given immunity by the feds... But wouldn't Oliver's public announcement that he is the Green Arrow open up Felicity and Diggle to perjury charges?

And worst/most dangerous job... Mayor of Gotham(on Gotham) or Mayor of Star City(Arrow)?

 

[dahj]

Honestly, what bugged me about that whole trap with the bombs is that it was screamingly obvious that it was a trap.

It was so lucky that when the laser triggers activated, everybody just happened to be standing in the clear spots

 

[Christopher]

And worst/most dangerous job... Mayor of Gotham(on Gotham) or Mayor of Star City(Arrow)?

Mayors of Seattle on iZombie don't seem to fare much better.

 

[Marc]

And worst/most dangerous job... Mayor of Gotham(on Gotham) or Mayor of Star City(Arrow)?

Nah - being a member of the city police department in either city would be worse.

 

[Mage]

Decent ending to a season that started great, and bombed right after Cayden James turned out to be a ruse.

I would love to see Ollie come back next season as a new Overwatch. Felicity has been taking care of William for a while now, and is in no rush to get back to Team Arrow. So, Ollie decides to help out the team, but as the new Overwatch. Without the hacking skills obviously.
With the rumors of Roy Harpers returning next season, maybe Diggle won't be the one wearing the Hood....

 

[dahj]

Without the hacking skills obviously.

Doesn't need them, he has the Hacking Arrow

 

[Christopher]

I would love to see Ollie come back next season as a new Overwatch. Felicity has been taking care of William for a while now, and is in no rush to get back to Team Arrow. So, Ollie decides to help out the team, but as the new Overwatch. Without the hacking skills obviously.

I could see Ollie as the general who stays behind rather than going out into the field, but being the chief strategist is a different role from being Overwatch. Overwatch is basically the Spock or Data of the team, while an HQ-based Oliver would be more of the Kirk or Picard -- well, more like Picard, who didn't leave the bridge as routinely as Kirk. (As it happens, I've occasionally thought that Stephen Amell would make a pretty good Captain Kirk.)

With the rumors of Roy Harpers returning next season, maybe Diggle won't be the one wearing the Hood....

That's not just a rumor. Colton Haynes has officially signed on for season 7.

I'd rather see Diggle resume the hood. He has the seniority and the history for it. And he's more plausible as a leader than Roy, even if it's just a field leader.

 

[Mage]

I could see Ollie as the general who stays behind rather than going out into the field, but being the chief strategist is a different role from being Overwatch. Overwatch is basically the Spock or Data of the team, while an HQ-based Oliver would be more of the Kirk or Picard -- well, more like Picard, who didn't leave the bridge as routinely as Kirk. (As it happens, I've occasionally thought that Stephen Amell would make a pretty good Captain Kirk.)




That's not just a rumor. Colton Haynes has officially signed on for season 7.

I'd rather see Diggle resume the hood. He has the seniority and the history for it. And he's more plausible as a leader than Roy, even if it's just a field leader.

Good comparison. I used Overwatch only to indicate someone who's not in the field (a lot), but yeah, your description is better. As for Colton, I wasn't aware he actually signed on. I thought it was a rumor. Glad to know he'll ofiicially be back.

Curious though, what do you think will happen? Will Ollie take a sort of leader-back-at-base role this season, or will he but the Hood back on within two episodes?