Any Trek authors pitched a post Romulus story to Pocketbooks yet?
- Thread starter ConRefit79
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I thought the Comic tie in shows he brought the news the Romulan Government and the rejected it.
kkozoriz1
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Unless they hand you a copy of the comic when you enter the theater that doesn't count.
I hate to burst your bubble, Trent, but the bit about "funny ethnic accents" is a holdover from TOS. Pavel Chekov's accent was always used for comedic effect -- remember that scene from Star Trek IV where he was running around 1980s San Francisco asking for nuclear wessels? Just be thankful ST09 ditched TOS's tendency to actively make fun of Chekov's nationality via the old, "Such-and-such actually came from Russia, you know!" gags.
kkozoriz1
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ConRefit79 said:
"My purpose, Christopher, is not simply to avoid the destruction of the home that I love but to create a Romulus that exists free of the Federation. You see only then will she be truely saved." - he wants a future where nothing can hurt his wife. He's gone totally over the edge, but I thought that line was really sweet. He knows he can never go home, but he can try to make life better for his future-wife.
He really should have gone to Hobus before Vulcan - but having one's priorities mixed up is a symptom of an unbalanced mind.
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kkozoriz1
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Making one "I'm so evil" speech and then running off hardly qualifies you for your arch-enemy badge.
Then how come the third-most popular Trek movie (after '09 and TWOK) is The Voyage Home -- a movie with no real villain at all?
You can't judge the effectiveness of a work by broad categories. A story in any category can be great or lousy depending on its execution.
Where does that "fact" even come from?
In the TNG movies, there had the misguided idea that the audience wants Star Trek to be an action movie. Same thing happened in the reboot. But how do they even get these impressions?
And is it just me or a movies today mostly conceived like "I want an action movie for young audiences, think of something." and back in the past it was something like "We want them to search for Spock" or "We want to do a Cold War parallel" and whether it then became an action, suspense, comedy, etc... movie for youngsters or adults was depending on the story?
Considering how successful ST09 was, it must not have been that misguided!
First Contact was also successful, and I liked Insurrection, and I still think it's a misguided idea.
If you only look at what made the most money at the box office to find out what might or might not resonate with the audience, then the next Star Trek should include pirates, wizards, a batman and should be animated.
I always wondered how Nero found out that he killed Jim Kirk's father. He didn't introduce himself to Nero at any point, and even if he did, Nero could only have been lucky that they weren't two unrelated Kirks. Unless when he studied Earth's history, he happened to remember the name of Jim Kirk's parents. But then we still have the problem of how he found out that he killed George Kirk.
I think it's feasable Nero found out during those missing 25 years. Even if he was in jail for most of them - in the deleted scenes there's Mr. Foureyes failing to smuggle papers to him, so he had some links to the outside.
I typically don't count Trek Lit as canon. But, I was under the impression the comic was commissioned by Abrams to fill in some of the back story he could not cover during the film. As tightly as they are controlling the franchise, I figured this is one example of something that can be considered canon.
kkozoriz1
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That's why it's not a good idea to look at the plot too closely. Pick at one thread it soon you've unravelled half the movie.
Based on the scenes that were written but not filmed and those that were filmed but deleted from the final film, it could have held together a lot more than it does. But, it's a non-stop action flick. Many of them don't hold up to scrutiny.
And I can't see how Nero would have found out about George Kirk in prison? "Tell me, four-eyed goon, what ship was it that rammed my ship? And can I have a list of dead crewmembers?"
Well, not entirely. There are one or two inconsistencies; for instance, Countdown claims that Nero and Spock Prime became friends before Romulus was destroyed, but in the movie, Spock Prime's dialogue ("He called himself Nero") implies that they'd never met before Spock used the red matter on the supernova.
And Robert Orci and Alex Kurtzman, who wrote the story to Countdown, have said in as many words that they don't consider it binding canon because it's in print rather than film. Or at least one of them did (probably Orci, who's been the more active participant in online discussions).
