Any mention of Data in post-Nemesis novels?
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It's not an act.Christopher said:
Anyway, I think we've decided that there is a resemblance but only in a certain light and from a certain angle (one which has never been documented in any photograph ever).
I'm okay with that, because it means I look like Harrison Ford.
^It's not an act? You mean you genuinely find it impossible to comprehend that anyone could sincerely perceive, interpret, or believe things differently from yourself? Good grief, most people figure that out by the age of three. You seriously need to broaden your horizons.
It seems clear that different people judge resemblance based on different criteria -- but, of course, "judge" is probably the wrong word, because it's just as clearly an unconscious reaction. Your unconscious will sometimes tell you "I know him/her." Then your brain starts trying to work out who it is. At least, that's how MY brain works.
Last night I was watching "Excalibur" on DVD, picking out all the actors I recognize from other projects. Patrick Stewart was an easy one to pick out, as were Nicholas Clay and Helen Mirren. But when grown-up Arthur showed up with his foster-father and -brother, it took me a little longer to identify the actor playing his pop. Suddenly, without any conscious thought, I said "Richard! Mind the cyclist!" in my best Hyacinth Bucket impression. I'd unconsciously recognized him, and commented on it before my conscious mind had time to do so. It was funny and weird at the same time.
Last night I was watching "Excalibur" on DVD, picking out all the actors I recognize from other projects. Patrick Stewart was an easy one to pick out, as were Nicholas Clay and Helen Mirren. But when grown-up Arthur showed up with his foster-father and -brother, it took me a little longer to identify the actor playing his pop. Suddenly, without any conscious thought, I said "Richard! Mind the cyclist!" in my best Hyacinth Bucket impression. I'd unconsciously recognized him, and commented on it before my conscious mind had time to do so. It was funny and weird at the same time.
There's no need to be nasty about it. We're specifically talking about Quinto resembling Nimoy and tangible evidence to the contrary is being dismissed because I had the audacity to use pictures of Nimoy and Quinto not looking alike (which is because they don't look alike).
*facepalm*
I don't see any similarity between Quinto and Nimoy either - in fact Quinto reminds me more of Alex Enberg, who played Vomit in Voyager, except that Quinto, y'know, can act and stuff.
Yeah, but you picked pictures of them at two totally different ages, if you can find pictures of them closer in age it would work alot better. I don't know if you did it on purpose, but you seem to have found pictures that don't prove anything one way or another.
You're talking about your personal opinions and subjective perceptions as though they were concrete facts -- as though you alone were the only qualified arbiter of reality. I find that to be extremely nasty on your part.
Case in point. You think those pictures show they don't look alike. I think those same pictures very clearly show that they do look strikingly alike, and at least one other person in this thread has agreed with me. So the only thing those pictures are "tangible evidence" of is that different people have different opinions, different perceptions. And it's just sad that you don't seem to recognize that that's even possible.
When somebody says that Quinto looks like Nimoy, you may as well be telling me that a red car is the same colour as a blue car. It just isn't so. I'm not going to pussy foot around or shy away from saying so on grounds of not causing a fuss.
There's also the difference of Quinto looking like Nimoy, and QuintoSpock looking like NimoySpock. Whilst the similarity is still anything but 'startling', make-up, prosthetics and costume go a long way to creating that illusion and influencing opinion.
I also like how the conversation has shifted from "I think he looks like Nimoy/I think he doesn't" to "I can't believe that you can't believe in the possibility of something that you can't believe in"
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Dude, your opinion ≠ fact. Now, you don't think they look alike; that's fine. Others do. Don't try to claim that other peoples' opinions are counter-factual. They aren't. They're subjective. If you don't like the fact that your opinion is not an objective fact, get the hell over it.
Mwuhaha, actually, there is fact in this discussion, put both of them through a biometric face recognition software, and it will tell you that they don't look alike. 
And personally, I don't see any resemblance either. They don't even look like brothers.
The eyes are especially different (which is imo the most important part they didn't get). Quinto's features are way too soft.
And personally, I don't see any resemblance either. They don't even look like brothers.
The eyes are especially different (which is imo the most important part they didn't get). Quinto's features are way too soft.
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Mwuhaha, actually, there is fact in this discussion, put both of them through a biometric face recognition software, and it will tell you that they don't look alike.
No, it'll tell you that they don't look identical. No one claimed they did.
And personally, I don't see any resemblance either. They don't even look like brothers.
The eyes are especially different (which is imo the most important part they didn't get). Quinto's features are way too soft.
And personally, I think that those photos show off how much they DO look alike.
Like I said: Subjective.
It was actually only meant to be a joke, but nevermind.Mwuhaha, actually, there is fact in this discussion, put both of them through a biometric face recognition software, and it will tell you that they don't look alike.
No, it'll tell you that they don't look identical. No one claimed they did.
But any face recognition software returns a percentage, not a yes and no answer. And you can also adjust thresholds. So you do get definitive results on how much alike two different faces are. So it's not even about being identical.
^In the opinion of a lot of people, Zachary Quinto bears a striking resemblance to a young Leonard Nimoy. That perceived resemblance was a major factor in casting Quinto as Spock in the first place. So yes, we're talking about the actors themselves, out of makeup and costume. It's a resemblance that many people called attention to long before Quinto ever donned the ears.
