Animated Trek series coming to Nickelodeon
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On the other hand, Avatar: The Last Airbender and The Legend of Korra were on Nickelodeon, and those are two of the most brilliant works of fantasy entertainment of the last few decades, with sizeable adult fanbases including myself. So the fact that a show is made for Nickelodeon viewers doesn't preclude it being satisfying for adults. It's all in the execution.
The only credit of the developers that I'm familiar with is Netflix's Trollhunters, but that's a pretty good show. Not an all-time favorite of mine, but it has a complex mythology and storyline, nuanced and evolving characters, morally ambiguous villains, and some pretty impressive action.
Trollhunters also has some rather dark and violent moments so I don't think we should write this show off as little kid's fluff just yet.
On the other hand, it's a Netflix show that's presumably free to skew older. A Nickelodeon show could be subject to more limitations, regardless of who makes it. Such things are dictated by the outlet, and it's the creator's job to adapt to those parameters.
Well, that's profoundly hyperbolic. Opining that drama works better, as a general rule, when the characters aren't as make-believe couldn't possibly be anything remotely like racism.
Sure, I somehow doubt they can get away with as much on Nickelodeon, but I don't think it's going to be Spongebob either.
Give the holodeck episode ("M. Night Sham-aliens!") a try. If that doesn't win you over, nothing will. It's the best holodeck episode ever.
I like the show. It's one of those more edgy adult aimed shows and it's usually very clever and has interesting observations about the human condition. There are some fans who have acted like jerks but from what I can tell most of them are usually teenagers or around that age so I sort of just see it as age related lack of maturity.
Jason
Oh, I understand that completely. But I, as a viewer (me personally) typically see the franchise through the eyes of the lead. Spock and Data et al. are there for the all-important commentary and allegory...but I experience the universe through Kirk, Burnham, Picard, etc.
Just a personal preference, but I have absolutely no desire for an alien lead. Like...none. I just don't find that interesting at all. I'd rather they continue to hit it out of the park with great human leads. And if they want to diversify in that lead spot, let's diversify with humans and human cultures, not made-up alien ones.
I'm just not that kind of fan. There's lots of Trek fans who gravitate toward Odo, Neelix, Saru, whatever because they love the aliens. That's not me. With the exception of Spock, give me Kirk, Bones, Riker, Stamets etc. any day.
That's all I'm saying.
Well, the thing about having a franchise with multiple series is that they can appeal to multiple different tastes. There's no point in having more than one series if they all cater to the same audience. You already have a half-dozen series with human leads, so your preferences have already been satisfied many times over and you have nothing to complain about if an alternative is offered. Some of us enjoy exploring worldviews different from our own, getting to see the universe through another culture's eyes and thereby broaden our own perspective. Why shouldn't we get the chance to have that too?
Animation also means that the voice actors can portray any kind of creature and not be hampered in their performances by the makeup. So no more marble-mouthed Klingons.
You know if they ever do another cartoon for kids I would like to see them do one featuring a older character at some point. Maybe Data during his academy days or something. It would be fun to use that as something to also maybe get kids interested in the older stuff as well.
Jason
Jason
I didn't say you couldn't. I simply explained my personal perspective and why I feel that way. It's no hard feelings.
I'm just glad there's an upcoming Star Trek series for my five-year-old niece.
Not only was it extremely generic, it had no involvement from the SG1 creators and doesn't fit Stargate's canon at all. This new Star Trek animated series will probably be more like Star Wars Resistance or Rebels. Clearly intended for kids, but carefully made to fit with the other series and to be watchable for most adults.
While I generally know them, I had never much interest in Star Wars cartoons. Not that they would be especially bad, but I felt their stories and settings don´t expand their franchise very much in any interesting way. Than again, even if it isn´t important for life, nothing short of Perry Rhodan series would really satify me, I guess.
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Oh, The Clone Wars and Rebels expanded the Star Wars universe in some very effective and important ways, though the jury's still out on Resistance. They've given us important new characters like Ahsoka Tano and Saw Gerrera, they've established Grand Admiral Thrawn as a canonical character, they've fleshed out Darth Maul and the Mandalorians and others, and they're the only place onscreen that Anakin Skywalker is actually a likeable and well-acted character.
And really, by this point, the animated shows constitute the vast majority of canonical Star Wars screen content by running time. I'm convinced there's a whole generation growing up now that sees Star Wars as an animated TV franchise with occasional live-action movies.
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