Alien, Predator, AvP (news)

[NCC-73515]

As far as I understand it*, water doesn't (necessarily) neutralize acid. It only dilutes it.
If I'm wrong, come at me gently.

*My high school learnin' is long gone, so I quick-Googled.

I suspect it comes down to acid-to-water ratios. The acid, true, will never really disappear in water. Yes, it will dilute, you are correct (I think). The only thing I recall from 11th grade chemistry that cancels acid is if you have something alkaline of equal parts mixed into it to balance out the pH factor. Diluted acid in water, though should be enough to at least not have to worry about melting holes in ship hulls. If you have a vat of Kaopectate hanging around, that might be useful.

Then again, I only got a C+ in chemistry, so I could be totally talking out of my ass.

In water, strong acids and strong bases dissociate completely, producing H3O+ and OH− ions, respectively. Different acid strengths can no longer be distinguished based on the pH value. It's known as the "leveling effect" of water.

 

[JD]

Noah Hawley has said there will be at least one Xenomorph in Alien: Earth, even though it's set before Alien and technically also before Prometheus, although IGN says it will ignore Prometheus. I'm not surprised, you can't really call it Alien without involving a Xenomorph in some form.

 

[Set Harth]

Hawley seems utterly uninterested in maintaining continuity with the prequels ( or the spirit of the originals for that matter ).

 

[137th Gebirg]

Sounds like the Highlander franchise all over again.

 

[StarTrek1701]

Sounds like the Highlander franchise all over again.

Nah it's just prequelititis all over again.
Hollywood creators+writers can't just let go of a certain 'timeframe' in the continuinity of every single IP there is.
Alien, Star Trek, Star Wars, Predator, Terminator.. all of it is infected by it now.

 

[Markonian]

Well I will need the schematics to the Nostromo to be 100% sure.

Do you have the Alien: Blueprints book by Graham Langridge? It's got detailed, deck-by-deck analyses of the Nostromo.

 

[USS Firefly]

Nah it's just prequelititis all over again.
Hollywood creators+writers can't just let go of a certain 'timeframe' in the continuinity of every single IP there is.
Alien, Star Trek, Star Wars, Predator, Terminator.. all of it is infected by it now.

I agree in so far that Star Trek also has sequels. Picard, lower decks and Prodigy

 

[Set Harth]

Sounds like the Highlander franchise all over again.

Reminds me of Legion S3, where Charles Xavier was fighting Nazis in WWII.

Hawley's excuse: (paraphrased) "You sure that was WWII you saw?"

I think this guy just doesn't do continuity

 

[Saul]

Noah Hawley has said there will be at least one Xenomorph in Alien: Earth, even though it's set before Alien and technically also before Prometheus, although IGN says it will ignore Prometheus. I'm not surprised, you can't really call it Alien without involving a Xenomorph in some form.

Will probably be that Queen that got dragged down into the ice in AVP.

 

[Starkers]

Noah Hawley has said there will be at least one Xenomorph in Alien: Earth, even though it's set before Alien and technically also before Prometheus, although IGN says it will ignore Prometheus. I'm not surprised, you can't really call it Alien without involving a Xenomorph in some form.

I don't think this is a terrible idea, it's clear the company had some idea what was on LV 426, why slip Ash aboard the Nostromo and have Mother wake the crew otherwise? That they've already encountered a Xenomorph would make sense wouldn't it?

I like the fact that he isn't interested in a bioweapon that was created half an hour ago (and I agree) and that he's fully on board with the retro futuristic aesthetic of the first two films (and presumably Alien 3 and Romulus).

Theoretically you can make all the films and the TV show tie together by treating WY as less of a monolithic corporate entity than a series of compartmentalised departments that operate on a need to know basis and don't necessarily know what other departments are doing outside of some vague rumours?

Or am I reaching here?

 

[xenotaris]

Do you have the Alien: Blueprints book by Graham Langridge? It's got detailed, deck-by-deck analyses of the Nostromo.

In-progress of getting that book. But I do have the Colonial Marine Technical Manual

 

[xenotaris]

I don't think this is a terrible idea, it's clear the company had some idea what was on LV 426, why slip Ash aboard the Nostromo and have Mother wake the crew otherwise? That they've already encountered a Xenomorph would make sense wouldn't it?

I like the fact that he isn't interested in a bioweapon that was created half an hour ago (and I agree) and that he's fully on board with the retro futuristic aesthetic of the first two films (and presumably Alien 3 and Romulus).

Theoretically you can make all the films and the TV show tie together by treating WY as less of a monolithic corporate entity than a series of compartmentalised departments that operate on a need to know basis and don't necessarily know what other departments are doing outside of some vague rumours?

Or am I reaching here?

I think the bioweapon suits the xenomorph mainly due to xenomorph having a biomechanical aesthetic (which also matches the architect of the derelict ship) to it. I always thought of the xenomorphs being an advanced form of synthetic so I am utterly against Hawley's vision of the xenomorphs being a naturally occurring organism. Why else would all the synthetics (besides Call, Walter and Andy) have a keen interest in the xenomorphs?

 

[NCC-73515]

Do you have the Alien: Blueprints book by Graham Langridge? It's got detailed, deck-by-deck analyses of the Nostromo.

I've tried to find good pictures, but if you have the book: How do the lower Nostromo maps from Isolation match the blueprints? Very similar, or totally different? The bridge deck seems to be accurate in the game.

 

[JD]

Nah it's just prequelititis all over again.
Hollywood creators+writers can't just let go of a certain 'timeframe' in the continuinity of every single IP there is.
Alien, Star Trek, Star Wars, Predator, Terminator.. all of it is infected by it now.

I think a lot of it also comes from the fact that these franchises are now old enough that the people taking over having grown up with the original parts of the franchise, so when they're given the chance to make their own version, they want to base it off of what they grew up with, rather than keeping up with the the more recent stuff.

I don't think this is a terrible idea, it's clear the company had some idea what was on LV 426, why slip Ash aboard the Nostromo and have Mother wake the crew otherwise? That they've already encountered a Xenomorph would make sense wouldn't it?

Yeah, I've always been under the impression that they knew exactly what is was on LV-426 when they had Ash take the Nostromo there, so it makes sense that they would have had to learn about Xenomorphs at some before that.

I think the bioweapon suits the xenomorph mainly due to xenomorph having a biomechanical aesthetic (which also matches the architect of the derelict ship) to it. I always thought of the xenomorphs being an advanced form of synthetic so I am utterly against Hawley's vision of the xenomorphs being a naturally occurring organism. Why else would all the synthetics (besides Call, Walter and Andy) have a keen interest in the xenomorphs?

I'm fine with either version, but I've never really seen as them as biomechanical, they've always seemed more insectoid to me.

 

[StarTrek1701]

I agree in so far that Star Trek also has sequels. Picard, lower decks and Prodigy

True, but with DSC going up to the 32nd century, technically everything else before that 'era' is now a prequel

 

[Kai "the spy"]

True, but with DSC going up to the 32nd century, technically everything else before that 'era' is now a prequel

 

[xenotaris]

I think a lot of it also comes from the fact that these franchises are now old enough that the people taking over having grown up with the original parts of the franchise, so when they're given the chance to make their own version, they want to base it off of what they grew up with, rather than keeping up with the the more recent stuff.

Yeah, I've always been under the impression that they knew exactly what is was on LV-426 when they had Ash take the Nostromo there, so it makes sense that they would have had to learn about Xenomorphs at some before that.


I'm fine with either version, but I've never really seen as them as biomechanical, they've always seemed more insectoid to me.

The original Alien trilogy and Romulus Xenomorphs are biomechanical.

Alien Resurrection, AVP movie series and Alien Covenant the Xenomorphs were fleshy.

 

[Markonian]

I've tried to find good pictures, but if you have the book: How do the lower Nostromo maps from Isolation match the blueprints? Very similar, or totally different? The bridge deck seems to be accurate in the game.

USCSS Nostromo deck plans (I don’t know if they cover the relevant section):

 

[NCC-73515]

The A deck checks out, mostly
I think the Torrens also has the locker room.

 

[valkyrie013]

Maybe the "Ignore" Promethieus is that it hasn't happened yet, so there is no black goo, etc.

Still would like a Weyland cameo or David 8 Cameo in the series,