Yeah the part where I said they do poorly in open and spacious environments is actually featured in the AVP movies. The xenomorphs tend to drop like flies when that happened... unless you are Grid
Alien, Predator, AvP (news)
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Its been 14 years since I last watched Alien Resurrection, mostly due to my disdain for that movie. Since I usually stop after ALIENS and then read the 30th Anniversary Earth War trilogy (the one where they didn't rewrite Ripley, Newt and Hicks into Android Ripley, Billie and Wilks)
It was an unfilmed scene where the young neomorph that got shot was supposed to survive. They kept it in the Novelization.
Or a swimming pool, if the ship has one. Water storage tanks are more realistic. Acid is chemically neutralized by water.
Wow, this is great news!
Alien: Romulus director teases a possible new Alien vs. Predator movie
Alien: Romulus director Fede Álvarez teases a possible new Alien vs. Predator movie which he could co-direct with Dan Trachtenberg.www.joblo.com
Now THAT would be interesting. Not as a direct sequel to Romulus but definitely something I wouldn't mind seeing. This time, please don't set it on Earth. If there is ever going to be a AvP again it simply needs to include the Colonial Marines.
The 1st AVP movie was the first A/P film I saw in cinema. The individual Preddie and Alien movies are good but for me it is a single franchise. They just don't work on their own, there's always something missing. Like watching superhero origin stories over and over and waiting for the actual "Justice League/Avengers assemble" movie.
Best to set it in Japan or a Japanese space colony and make it Alien vs Predator: Ghost of Tsushima. The thing writes itself!
Xenomorphs are excellent swimmers as seen in Alien Resurrection and Aliens vs Predator Requiem
While I do agree that Alien and Predator should be part of a shared universe together, they go good with each other like Peanut Butter and Jelly.
However the AVP movies were disappointing to me due to being poorly made.
My issues with the AVP movies are as follows:
The present day setting, yes I know the Predator movies are typically set during the year the movie is released. The only exceptions to this are Predator 2 (1990) which is set during 1997 and Prey (2021) which is set in the 1700s. Although I'm fine seeing the Yautja on Earth prior to the FUTURE.
The presence of the Xenomorphs on Earth, I feel Ripley's mission to prevent the xenomorphs from getting to earth and falling into Weyland-Yutani's hands is rendered moot. I'm fine if this was set during Ripley's time or sometime after Ripley (the original, not Ripley 8) but not before Ripley.
There is the different narrative styles between ALIEN and PREDATOR. The original Aliens vs Predator comic balanced this out quite nicely. The AVP movie did not. I may be biased since I watched the original ALIEN and PREDATOR films first before seeing the AVP movies.
ALIEN is a Lovecraftian body horror story with some elements of cosmic horror sprinkled in.
PREDATOR is an action-horror movie that typically starts off as a different genre of movie before genre shifting into a Monster movie. Examples: Predator 1 starts off as a typical jungle-theme 80s action movie, Predator 2 starts off as a typical Cop-drama, and Prey starts off as a Native American Period Drama. The other movies are pretty much straight up sci-fi movies from the start.
Another issue I have is how the first AVP movie ignores/changes the stand-alone movies lore. Predator vision is changed from blue background with heat visuals to modern thermal vision. Thankfully Predators and later Predator movies reversed this back to the classic Predator vision.
Predators since the original Predator movie were always attracted to HOT WEATHER as in a HEAT WAVE. AVP changes this to they are attracted to a HEAT SIGNATURE which is not the same thing since they have to traverse in COLD WEATHER.
AVP 04 also sloppily handled the Yautja culture. Having young bloods blood themselves doesn't sit right with me. That's the Clan Elder's job. If a young blood did such a thing in the comics, he would be labeled as a badblood! And since the AVP comic and its novelization came out before the first AVP movie. I take its lore over AVP (2004)'s lore.
Next are the xenomorph's designs. They heavily resembled the mutant clones from Alien Resurrection. The Alien Ressurection xenomorphs were specifically designed to look like that because they are technically hybrids and not supposed to be "pure" strain Xenomorphs. AVP 2004 on the other just used the designs because the director though they looked "good" enough and couldn't afford to design his own xenomorphs.
All in all, should they make a new AVP movie. They need to erase the first two AVP movies and only acknowledge the standalone Alien movies and Predator movies (bar The Predator). Prometheus and Prey already ignore AVP (2004) as a whole.
Also why set in Japan? That might work for Predator but not ALIEN. Any setting prior to Ripley's time involving xenomorphs is a bad idea.
I am not against having a story set around a japanese colony, but only if it makes sense to the story and ALIEN is always about a diverse crew. Ultimately ALIEN is about Blue-color workers struggling against an oppressive corporation who cares more about capturing a live xenomorph than human life.
Also the ALIEN and PREDATOR series aren't meant to be MCU-like at any compacity. They are at their core horror movies. Meaning a good chunk of the cast is supposed to die before the end of the film.
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Well, sure, but if someone wanted to kill one without burning acid holes in a ship hull, ventilating the entire crew, trap them in a water tank and go to work. The resulting acid leakage would be neutralized by the water.
True, assuming they can hit the creature whilst its underwaterWell, sure, but if someone wanted to kill one without burning acid holes in a ship hull, ventilating the entire crew, trap them in a water tank and go to work. The resulting acid leakage would be neutralized by the water.
Depth charges. Best way to fish.
Redneck fishing with TNT. Accept no substitutes.
Then again, if someone does that in a ship's water tank, the compression impact would blow out the hull, doing much more damage than a few drops of xeno-acid. See BSG's S1-E2 "Water".
A high-powered titanium-tipped harpoon, exceptionally good aim and a calm demeanor is probably the best plan.
Then again, if someone does that in a ship's water tank, the compression impact would blow out the hull, doing much more damage than a few drops of xeno-acid. See BSG's S1-E2 "Water".
A high-powered titanium-tipped harpoon, exceptionally good aim and a calm demeanor is probably the best plan.
I suspect it comes down to acid-to-water ratios. The acid, true, will never really disappear in water. Yes, it will dilute, you are correct (I think). The only thing I recall from 11th grade chemistry that cancels acid is if you have something alkaline of equal parts mixed into it to balance out the pH factor. Diluted acid in water, though should be enough to at least not have to worry about melting holes in ship hulls. If you have a vat of Kaopectate hanging around, that might be useful.
Then again, I only got a C+ in chemistry, so I could be totally talking out of my ass.
Then again, I only got a C+ in chemistry, so I could be totally talking out of my ass.
Drinking water. FJ gave the Enterprise massive water tanks, for example. Could also be heavy water for the fusion reactors. He also gave the big-E a swimming pool.
Well I will need the schematics to the Nostromo to be 100% sure. But I hypothesized that the drinking water would be in a self-contained part of the ship. I think the coolant tanks are also in a self-contained part of the ship. Now unless you cut the coolant pipe and flood a section of the ship, I think the Nostromo is pretty self-contained. I'm going later buy the Alien: Blueprint book for the schematics just to be sure.
As for the Swimming Pool, the Enterprise, especially the Enterprise-D, were designed for comfort. Being mostly exploration vessels with the Enterprise-D being a mobile hotel. The Nostromo is basically a tugboat crossed with an 18-wheeler crossed with a Cargo Ship. In the ALIEN novelization, Dallas mentions that the crew are only awake to load the cargo and to drop it off then they go into cryosleep.
As for the Swimming Pool, the Enterprise, especially the Enterprise-D, were designed for comfort. Being mostly exploration vessels with the Enterprise-D being a mobile hotel. The Nostromo is basically a tugboat crossed with an 18-wheeler crossed with a Cargo Ship. In the ALIEN novelization, Dallas mentions that the crew are only awake to load the cargo and to drop it off then they go into cryosleep.
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IIRC, Ridley set Nostromo to self-destruct by overloading its fusion engines (hence the really big boom at the end). That would imply it has a large supply of heavy water as fuel that should also do the trick. But, yeah, they probably didn’t have a swimming pool…
lol, I think you meant Ripley, not Ridley. Yes, the overloading of the fusion engine was depriving it of its coolant.IIRC, Ridley set Nostromo to self-destruct by overloading its fusion engines (hence the really big boom at the end). That would imply it has a large supply of heavy water as fuel that should also do the trick. But, yeah, they probably didn’t have a swimming pool…
Yeah autocorrect sucks ass.
Although it was a Ridley Scott film, and that’s how he directed it. So technically, I wasn’t 100% wrong.
Although it was a Ridley Scott film, and that’s how he directed it. So technically, I wasn’t 100% wrong.
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