Spoilers Agents of SHIELD- The Final Season Discussion
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Both of those are wonderful tributes.
As much as I'm looking forward to tomorrow's series finale, I'm also not looking forward to it. I'm going to miss the hell out of this show and its optimism and sense of fun. Since season 5, we've been living on borrowed time and I'm thrilled with (almost) every minute of the extra time we've gotten with these wonderful characters.
I just wish Piper was around for this final season. I seem to recall reading something before this season premiered that she would be back, but unless she pops up in the finale, that turned out to be wrong and that makes me sad. She was easily my favorite non-cast member character, even more so than Ghost Rider and Deathlok.
some-one mentioned a couple of pages back that one program guide was listing Piper as appearing but sometimes those guides aren't always correct.
Piper and Davis's actors are in the official press release for the episode(s)
I can finally join this thread now that I am caught up.
Is there going to be any live posting going on tomorrow?
Is there going to be any live posting going on tomorrow?
I'm avoiding this thread from (PDT) 6:00 PM to 11:00 PM so I can enjoy the episode spoiler free. I really liked the two links that were posted today, the farewell message and the favorite moments from ET. I'm going to be sad when it's all over.
That was a great video. Mack is apparently just as sweet in real life, and Deke is Deke. 
It's so surreal seeing all this BTS stuff knowing it was made a year or more ago, though. Must be weird for the cast and crew, too, though I suppose long gaps between filming and promotion aren't that unusual, it's just the circumstances are drawing a pretty bright line between now and the before-time.
to everyone watching the finale shortly: I hope you can ENJOY the series finale it and get the outcomes/endings you'd like.
We have minimal power here. Can’t receive cable
we were able to hook up the internet though and some lights and refrigerator
we were able to hook up the internet though and some lights and refrigerator
The first hour was rather rudimentary, but everything picked up when Fitz finally returned. The second part actually felt like things were coming to an end...if only some parts of that ending felt a little easy to come by.
I loved the explanation for what Fitz, Simmons, and Enoch did in order to save everyone else. At this point, I think we all figured that they spent a significant amount time on their own developing their plan and raising their daughter before traveling back in time to just after they left, but nonetheless it was good to finally watch it play out. So that part of the long-term equation worked out pretty nicely for me. Plus, it directly lead into the long-awaited return of Piper! Oh, and Flint, too! And one last glimpse of the wonderful Enoch!
However, the whole Kora uses her superpowers, with an assist from May's new nature, to give the Chronicoms empathy as a means to defeat them...felt rather weak after everything our heroes went through. It's better than the traditional smash them until they're dead type of ending (since the Chronicoms would never surrender otherwise), and while I guess it was set up with everything May and Kora went through this season, it just didn't quite land for me. Not a big deal but it felt weak.
So did Daisy's miraculous survival after defeating Nathaniel with his own power protection. So Kora also has healing powers? I guess I missed that somewhere along the line.
That all said, I loved the closing moments of the series. How they all met together one year later, the beginning of a tradition, and we learn where everyone is across the planet...and the cosmos. I love that May became an instructor and I figured that out the moment she lamented how tired she was in relation to all of her past experiences. Daisy, Kora, and Sousa are traveling across the stars, and Sousa is reading Sagan! Mack has his own Hellcarrier! Yo-Yo is working in the field alongside Piper and LMD Davis (Piper has her sparring partner back)! Fitz and Simmons get their long-earned rest from SHIELD and everything else so they can focus on each other and their daughter.
And the show ends on the perfect note: A parting gift from Mack, Coulson is finally reunited with his beloved Lola!
I loved the explanation for what Fitz, Simmons, and Enoch did in order to save everyone else. At this point, I think we all figured that they spent a significant amount time on their own developing their plan and raising their daughter before traveling back in time to just after they left, but nonetheless it was good to finally watch it play out. So that part of the long-term equation worked out pretty nicely for me. Plus, it directly lead into the long-awaited return of Piper! Oh, and Flint, too! And one last glimpse of the wonderful Enoch!
However, the whole Kora uses her superpowers, with an assist from May's new nature, to give the Chronicoms empathy as a means to defeat them...felt rather weak after everything our heroes went through. It's better than the traditional smash them until they're dead type of ending (since the Chronicoms would never surrender otherwise), and while I guess it was set up with everything May and Kora went through this season, it just didn't quite land for me. Not a big deal but it felt weak.
So did Daisy's miraculous survival after defeating Nathaniel with his own power protection. So Kora also has healing powers? I guess I missed that somewhere along the line.
That all said, I loved the closing moments of the series. How they all met together one year later, the beginning of a tradition, and we learn where everyone is across the planet...and the cosmos. I love that May became an instructor and I figured that out the moment she lamented how tired she was in relation to all of her past experiences. Daisy, Kora, and Sousa are traveling across the stars, and Sousa is reading Sagan! Mack has his own Hellcarrier! Yo-Yo is working in the field alongside Piper and LMD Davis (Piper has her sparring partner back)! Fitz and Simmons get their long-earned rest from SHIELD and everything else so they can focus on each other and their daughter.
And the show ends on the perfect note: A parting gift from Mack, Coulson is finally reunited with his beloved Lola!
One other minor thing that bugged me: Towards the end of the first episode, after our heroes escaped the Chronicom ship to the secret SHIELD rendezvous at the bar, I hated how all of the 80s agents were promptly ignored and forgotten about after their immediate usefulness was over, i.e. delivering all of Enoch's MacGuffin parts of the machine that brought back Fitz. Our heroes start talking about Chronicoms and time travel and alternate dimensions and quantum physics and so forth and these agents don't even bat an eye even though they've never seen the before until now. That took me out of the scene a little bit...until Fitz returned and I stopped caring. 
Oh, nice catch! I missed that tidbit.
Wow....that was a tearjerker for me.
But a happy ending... would be great if we can see them or get named dropped in future MCU offerings.
Oh, and my post on Chloe Bennet got delayed due to an electrical outage... but posted it as the finale wound down
http://more2ignore.blogspot.com/2020/08/our-encounter-with-chloe-bennet.html?m=1
But a happy ending... would be great if we can see them or get named dropped in future MCU offerings.
Oh, and my post on Chloe Bennet got delayed due to an electrical outage... but posted it as the finale wound down
http://more2ignore.blogspot.com/2020/08/our-encounter-with-chloe-bennet.html?m=1
Wow, that was fast: Someone already edited the Theta Serpentis Wikipedia article to include its and Alya's use in this episode. Somehow I expect the higher ups will remove the inclusion as irrelevant or something. 
There's an entry on Wikipedia where all such pop culture references are being funnelled to. It'll be fine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stars_and_planetary_systems_in_fiction
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stars_and_planetary_systems_in_fiction
Fair enough. I was just grumbling because I've had...issues...with how Wikipedia handles certain things, to the point that I don't bother editing anything anymore.
That was everything I wanted it to be. I do agree, the first hour was you basic episode, but things really picked up when Fitz came and the reveal of Alya was my first tearjerker moment of the night. I loved how the fight scenes played out, and then we got the ending and it was classic Agents of Shield. I loved where we saw all the characters end up, and it was awesome to see Piper and Davis again. I also loved we got one extra moment with Daisy and Phil, which caused my second tearjerker of the night. To end it the same way the ended the first episode, with Caulson flying off in Lola was a perfect ending.
I think I need to see the explanation of the plan again. I've always been dumbfounded by time travel explanations so I found this one kind of timey-whimey. I did love how you guys were right in that they allowed Fitz and SImmons to live a good life and raise a daughter though. Maybe on that end the explanation doesn't matter and I roll with it.
Still, I went in really looking forward to this finale, and I came out very satisfied with the result. It's been a hell of a two months for me on this series and I'm really really glad it helped provide a good distraction and even several smiles.
I think I need to see the explanation of the plan again. I've always been dumbfounded by time travel explanations so I found this one kind of timey-whimey. I did love how you guys were right in that they allowed Fitz and SImmons to live a good life and raise a daughter though. Maybe on that end the explanation doesn't matter and I roll with it.
Still, I went in really looking forward to this finale, and I came out very satisfied with the result. It's been a hell of a two months for me on this series and I'm really really glad it helped provide a good distraction and even several smiles.
