doesn't explain there planet's low spin - wasn't the inner eyelid due to vulcan evolution?
... and what does a mesopotamian king know about vulcans anyway?
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... and what does a mesopotamian king know about vulcans anyway?
Sargon the alien spirit from TOS that was trapped in a glowing balldoesn't explain there planet's low spin - wasn't the inner eyelid due to vulcan evolution?
... and what does a mesopotamian king know about vulcans anyway?
Sargon of Akkad - Wikipedia
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- i know that
- at least 600,000 years before which means there was a deevolution* an a reevolution* (otherwise spock would have known about it)
* as to being fully sentient
There is no such thing as de-evolution or re-evolution in evolution, its just evolution. You can't give birth to your parents!
also its called sapience, not sentience. All vertebrate animals are sentient, but only humans and apes are sapient.
Also if you knew that, why did you pretended not too? that is so frustrating.
The vulcans very well been genetically modified since they were a space faring before they arrive to planet Vulcan. After arriving, they either adapted via evolution or genetically engineered themselves to handle Vulcan's atmosphere and gravity.
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i know that and that's why i had the asterisk - call it whatever you like but those arretans obviously didn't keep records any longer or spock would have known about them. as a matter of fact they fell so deep into stoneage like circumstances that spock has never heard of them which clearly means they had a lot of evolution on vulcan, my de- and re- evolution was only as to being fully sentient.
None of that suggests a prey species couldn’t evolve intelligence.
Regarding Sargon...
It isn't a fact that Vulcans came from Sargon's people, only speculation.
Sargon said that perhaps Earth's Adam and Eve legends are tales of his people visiting Earth, while Spock conjectured it might explain some of Vulcan's prehistory.
"In either case, I do not know."
Sargon, "RETURN TO TOMORROW"
It isn't a fact that Vulcans came from Sargon's people, only speculation.
Sargon said that perhaps Earth's Adam and Eve legends are tales of his people visiting Earth, while Spock conjectured it might explain some of Vulcan's prehistory.
"In either case, I do not know."
Sargon, "RETURN TO TOMORROW"
I meant a solely herbivorous one, especially not a hardosaur! Troodons would have be a better candidate for a dinosaur to evolve sapience.
Science in Science Fiction means you have to use Science in the fiction. Rejection of that science, it becomes Fantasy.
Planets are shaped by their environment, if a planetoid reaches a certain size it becomes Round. All planets contain rock (including Gas giants) and gas. There will be no planet comprised of Cotton Candy and Ice cream!
Life as we know it, evolve depending on their environment. If this isn't the case, how come we haven't seen any life on Mercury, Venus, or Mars?
If Sargon's story was bogus, then we can assume that Vulcan was once more Earth-like and used to have a moon.
Sargon was answering Kirk when he said that he referred to the crew as 'my children'.
SARGON: Because it is possible you are our descendants, Captain Kirk. Six thousand centuries ago, our vessels were colonising this galaxy, just as your own starships have now begun to explore that vastness. As you now leave your own seed on distant planets, so we left our seed behind us. Perhaps your own legends of an Adam and an Eve were two of our travellers.
MULHALL: Our beliefs and our studies indicate that life on our planet, Earth, evolved independently.
SPOCK: That would tend, however, to explain certain elements of Vulcan prehistory.
SARGON: In either case, I do not know. It was so long ago, and the records of our travels were lost in the cataclysm which we loosened upon ourselves.
Regarding speed of rotation, not all planets rotate the same, with or without moons. VOY's "BLINK OF AN EYE" springs to mind.
SARGON: Because it is possible you are our descendants, Captain Kirk. Six thousand centuries ago, our vessels were colonising this galaxy, just as your own starships have now begun to explore that vastness. As you now leave your own seed on distant planets, so we left our seed behind us. Perhaps your own legends of an Adam and an Eve were two of our travellers.
MULHALL: Our beliefs and our studies indicate that life on our planet, Earth, evolved independently.
SPOCK: That would tend, however, to explain certain elements of Vulcan prehistory.
SARGON: In either case, I do not know. It was so long ago, and the records of our travels were lost in the cataclysm which we loosened upon ourselves.
Regarding speed of rotation, not all planets rotate the same, with or without moons. VOY's "BLINK OF AN EYE" springs to mind.
vulcan has no moon - that's been a constant
I was speculating
that depends upon where they are regarding their suns. if there are no big moons the closer they are the faster they spin - mass plays a role, too.
without the moon earth' rotation would be about six hours - and scientists tell us with a six hour day we wouldn't be around
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spock in the mantrap
in snw vulcan gets a sister planet
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apparently it is some earlier books (1970s, too)
I'm aware of how mass plays a role. That isn't my point.
In the franchise, different aliens came from different planets with different amounts of moons. Ranging from none (like Vulcan) to multiple (like Bajor with 5). One nice little nod showing differences between worlds is Bajor having a 26 hour day. And DS9 kept that consistent for the entire series.
at least one of bajor's moons is big enough to hold a breathable atmosphere - ours isn't
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Well our moon's core solidified and its early atmosphere was stripped away by the Sun's solar winds
I hate blatant retcons, where was this planet during the TOS, TOS movies, TNG, ENT?
Romulans were lurking but we don’t know if there was Planet Vulcan-specific DNA in the ancient program, do we? Lots of humanoids weren’t represented in it that still trace back to the Progenitors. Even if so, why shouldn’t the Progenitors have seeded the Arretans who in turn seeded Vulcan?Vulcans came from the Progenitors, since Romulans were in The Chase and are descendants of Vulcans.
Unless that only applied to the Northerners, who were indigenous to Romulus when the Vulcan Southerners arrived
Again, why not? Evolution is a process not a lineage. The universe is complex and “life finds a way.”
Maybe a combo of both planetary and otherwise. Genetically engineered life? Evolved on asteroids in strange Goldilocks Zones near stars or planets or nebulae? Maybe from biological material originally from the surface of a planet?
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