A ‘Star Wars’ Movie Directed by a Woman Is ‘Absolutely’ Happening, Vows Kathleen Kennedy

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

You truly show that you simply have no clue what you're talking about. On any level.

The studio has to greenlight every decision the director makes, they can simply strike things off in the budgeting phase, or in the editing phase. The director doesn't have as much control as you think. Why do you think it comes across as a big deal when a director negotiates having the final say over the theatrical cut of a film?

The studios don't greenlight every decision a director makes. That would be micromanagement. The studio greenlights projects presented to them by producers.. The producers .. (a nebulous term as there are many different types) can be the one that insures that the film has the tone, voice, time period, etc, and another producer can make sure that the budget is balanced, locations are set etc. Studios do not micromanage and approve every decision, otherwise nothing would get done. Also, many directors are given final cut, while newer directors are not.

I think there is one person here who has no idea what the fuck they are talking about and that would be YOU

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

To idiotically say a studio approves every decision made by a director is to say that the CEO of Amazon actually cared that I got the right color socks I ordered

 

[BillJ]

To idiotically say a studio approves every decision made by a director is to say that the CEO of Amazon actually cared that I got the right color socks I ordered

The color of socks you receive doesn't equate to a potential $200-300 million dollar mistake.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

The color of socks you receive doesn't equate to a potential $200-300 million dollar mistake.

True.
That's why, while no one intends to make a bad movie, and while a film can seem like winner throughout its production, bad movies still get made. Or good movies get made that don't connect with or find an audience (like a recent favorite of mine, Cloud Atlas).


As for representation , Grace Randolph, YouTube critic who is also on Rotten Tomatoes, said the new Birds of Prey film neither warrants fresh or totten score, but she went with fresh because "representation is important " .. her words not mine

 

[JD]

Why? Because the people here are so insecure about their position that they straw man mine? Because everyone here is all leftists who hope that everyone is included, complain when someone is left out, and they hopes the government will pay for everything.. forgetting that said government will then have that control and will never let it go? I don't want to to talk politics anymore but it's been brought up many times that most of the people here are leftists, and I guess I'm fine with that.. save for the fact that they attack people who suddenly offend a hair on their head

So you're not going actually address the points I brought up.

The studios don't greenlight every decision a director makes. That would be micromanagement. The studio greenlights projects presented to them by producers.. The producers .. (a nebulous term as there are many different types) can be the one that insures that the film has the tone, voice, time period, etc, and another producer can make sure that the budget is balanced, locations are set etc. Studios do not micromanage and approve every decision, otherwise nothing would get done. Also, many directors are given final cut, while newer directors are not.

I think there is one person here who has no idea what the fuck they are talking about and that would be YOU

No, it's you. When it comes to these kinds of movies, the studios tend to take a pretty active hand in their production. That's why there are so many horror stories about studio interference ruining movies.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

So you're not going actually address the points I brought up.

No, it's you. When it comes to these kinds of movies, the studios tend to take a pretty active hand in their production. That's why there are so many horror stories about studio interference ruining movies.

studio interference, yes that does happen. sometimes it helps movies. I was just correcting our friend when he said that the studios greenlight ever decision made on a movie".. as they certainly do not. And if you know anything about Chewbacca and pants, you know that studio interference can be overruled

 

[JD]

And once again you are still refusing the address the later part of my post before that one.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

You want to know why she doesn't talk about the story....... because she's not a writer, so she's not the one coming up with the stories. You want to know one of the things she is in charge, hiring the people who are going to come up with the stories and make the movies. So that is why she talks so much about what kind of people she is going to hire.

The decisions about diversity and things like that are usually made at a different point in the process than the story, and unless the characters' races or genders are a part of the story, then one typically doesn't impact the other.

OK, I've said this before, but I'm going to keep repeating it until you actually respond to me.
You might not be a bigot, but you really do sound like one, so if you really aren't, then you might want to think a bit about what you are posting. If I were you, I would take a step back and reread the things that you have been posting, and look at it all the way we are.
If you really do mean things you are posting the way they sound, then you might not be aware of it, but they do make you a bigot in the eyes of a lot of people.

I addressed this shit many many times.
KK is not a writer.. clearly. Neither is Feige. But Feige understands both the comics and cinema. He understands how to adapt comics for the cinema. KK's experience is the kind of producer that, as I've said was excellent in her job, but she was not involved in any creative capacity.
I agree with what you are saying about diversity, at least at base, but KK does not.. she wants to put her desires for diversity, her agenda, be that good or bad in your mind, above the story,. And as for sounding like a bigot, .. as I've demonstrated, people will strawman my words here anyway.

 

[Campe]

Blame KK.

Why do we need to blame anyone?

 

[crookeddy]

Why do we need to blame anyone?

You don't think the ST could have turned out better?

 

[Campe]

You don't think the ST could have turned out better?

I do but that's not the point now, is it?

 

[crookeddy]

I do but that's not the point now, is it?

It's business. When something isn't perfect you need someone to blame.

 

[Campe]

It's business. When something isn't perfect you need someone to blame.

Nothing is perfect. And its a far too idealistic thought that anything actually could be. Regardless, the topic of the sequel trilogy was not what I was responding to, nor is it the topic of this thread. We have discussed my and others' opinions about the sequel trilogy elsewhere. I do not feel like re-litigating this or the continuous need to blame one individual for the perceived failings of the sequel trilogy. There is PLENTY of blame to go around on those movies.

 

[JD]

And as for sounding like a bigot, .. as I've demonstrated, people will strawman my words here anyway.

Do you at least understand why you are coming across to be people?
I'm not trying to pick on you here, I'm trying to take you at your word when you say you don't see yourself as a bigot, and trying to help you find a way to get your point across with out sounding like a racist, sexist asshole.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Do you at least understand why you are coming across to be people?
I'm not trying to pick on you here, I'm trying to take you at your word when you say you don't see yourself as a bigot, and trying to help you find a way to get your point across with out sounding like a racist, sexist asshole.

So someone said this to me:

Considering there are talented female directors, your point is completely irrelevant

Your argument basically boils down to "I think the movie will be terrible because I don't think women know how to direct movies"

and I say this:

No that's not what I said, or what I implied

I implied that the movie is terrible because they put diversity over story.

It's the same reason I believe, in writing, that "how a story is told" is more important that "what the story is"., I'm not saying it's not close (I give 55% to "how" and 45% to "what" and in this case I give 70% to what the story is and 30% to the race or sex organs of the people working on it, unless their race and gender is an inherent aspect of that story.. like it would be if you were making a picture like Coming to America or that MLK movie)

But straw-manning my arguments, rephrasing them a new way to easily attack my position just won't work

Clearly everyone on this board just wants to treat me like this just because they don't want to argue my actual points, and this is a good example of someone thinkng exactly what they want to think about me just by making it up. So I hardly care about making it sound like I'm not a bigot, because clearly that won't work

 

[JD]

Well, if you are going to keep sounding like bigot than you shouldn't get mad when people treat you like one. At this point it's pretty clear how people are going to react to what you say, so if you don't want to be treated the way you are being treated, you should just stop saying what you've been saying.

 

[The Wormhole]

Yawn

 

[Spot261]

Blame KK.

Which pretty much summarises your entire posting history here.

Blame her for what, exactly?

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Which pretty much summarises your entire posting history here.

Blame her for what, exactly?

We haven't even seen the film(s) yet, and we're already supposed to be blaming her. That indicates just how absurd the remark is.

 

[BillJ]

Which pretty much summarises your entire posting history here.

Blame her for what, exactly?

If we're blaming her for everything wrong with the franchise, it is only fair that we give her credit for everything that is going right with it, including The Mandolorian.