A ‘Star Wars’ Movie Directed by a Woman Is ‘Absolutely’ Happening, Vows Kathleen Kennedy

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  1. Flying Spaghetti Monster

    Flying Spaghetti Monster Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Because she is putting this aspect FIRST. She has also mismanaged almost every project she has worked on. I put story first. That's not say I don't think diverse people can be involved. But if you want to put diversity first, that is fine. I disagree.. but that's ok
     
  2. BillJ

    BillJ History's Greatest Monster Premium Member

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    Has she? Her track record up to this point says other wise. Every film installment has been written and directed by men. White men.

    Since she still has a job, I'd say Disney disagrees with you. And they are the ones who are banking these projects.
     
  3. Garak

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    Considering there are talented female directors, your point is completely irrelevant

    Your argument basically boils down to "I think the movie will be terrible because I don't think women know how to direct movies"
     
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  4. Flying Spaghetti Monster

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    No that's not what I said, or what I implied

    I implied that the movie is terrible because they put diversity over story.

    It's the same reason I believe, in writing, that "how a story is told" is more important that "what the story is"., I'm not saying it's not close (I give 55% to "how" and 45% to "what" and in this case I give 70% to what the story is and 30% to the race or sex organs of the people working on it, unless their race and gender is an inherent aspect of that story.. like it would be if you were making a picture like Coming to America or that MLK movie)

    But strawmanning my arguments, rephrasing them a new way to easily attack my position just won't work
     
  5. BillJ

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    Because you're a bigot, and can't see beyond it.
     
  6. Flying Spaghetti Monster

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    If I was a bigot I probably would have not liked the fact that certain characters are a different race or gender. But my main concern is the story
     
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    You keep telling yourself that. All the while getting your underpants in a twist because a wimmenz might direct one of the movies.
     
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  8. Flying Spaghetti Monster

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    I personally hardly care if woman does.

    Star Wars needs a lot of help[ right now in other areas
     
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  9. The Wormhole

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    Okay brah
    Gotcha brah
    Oh, fuck.
    LEARN HOW TO SPELL!!!
     
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  10. Awesome Possum

    Awesome Possum Take it sleazy Moderator

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    So you just hate PR? Because that’s all this is. She’s really trying to deal with a lot of valid criticism of Disney as a whole. Marvel Studios is dealing with similar issues and have taken moves to address them, they just don’t get the same treatment that Kennedy gets.
     
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    You want to know why she doesn't talk about the story....... because she's not a writer, so she's not the one coming up with the stories. You want to know one of the things she is in charge, hiring the people who are going to come up with the stories and make the movies. So that is why she talks so much about what kind of people she is going to hire.
    The decisions about diversity and things like that are usually made at a different point in the process than the story, and unless the characters' races or genders are a part of the story, then one typically doesn't impact the other.
    OK, I've said this before, but I'm going to keep repeating it until you actually respond to me.
    You might not be a bigot, but you really do sound like one, so if you really aren't, then you might want to think a bit about what you are posting. If I were you, I would take a step back and reread the things that you have been posting, and look at it all the way we are.
    If you really do mean things you are posting the way they sound, then you might not be aware of it, but they do make you a bigot in the eyes of a lot of people.
     
  12. Garak

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    Again this point is completely irrelevant

    There are talented female directors just like there are talented male directors. So the potential to have a good director is there and it’s clear as day

    You don’t even know the name of the woman who would direct this movie, yet you’ve automatically written it off as bad

    I also highly doubt you’d say a word if someone came out and said there would only be a male director for this movie

    You either don’t have the mental capacity to understand this or you’re completely aware that you sound like a misogynist and don’t care. Those are the only two scenarios at play here

    Hanging onto this “story” argument is pathetic. A director isn’t even 100% responsible for the “story” in a movie either, there’s plenty of other factors like writers and the actors themselves that come in to play. It’s a whole bunch of different parts that have to connect well to make the story work
     
  13. Shaka Zulu

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    Hell, the Ewok Adventure movies are better than the Holiday Special (and so is anything by Michael Bay, mainly the Transformers movies, IMHO), so yeah, the last three were great except to certain fans that didn't like them.

    Oh yeah? Which ones?:rolleyes:
     
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  14. Professor Zoom

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    Excuse me? Certain fans? What does that mean? Not all people who disliked the trilogy--and I liked one, loved another, hated the third--are the "certain fans" who don't like women in their movies. Please don't lump us into that group.

    While Rise of Skywalker is better than the Ewok Movies (--actually, is it?) that doesn't suddenly make it a good movie.
     
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  15. Awesome Possum

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    I love the Ewok Adventures. I think they were the first Star Wars media I saw as a child and have always held a special place in my heart. I never got the Ewok hate, they were always just part of Star Wars to me.
     
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    Sigh. All of this again?
     
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  17. Awesome Possum

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    I think his ban is up and he just couldn't resist doing the exact same thing.
     
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    Thing is, I don't believe you do.

    I believe diversity is very much at the forefront of your mind, just for different reasons than it is for others. Your justifications and story criticisms change to suit based on the particulars but in all too many instances it is diversity which is the common factor.

    Throughout your posting here your focus has been limited to say the least, repetitive to be more honest and story is not at the forefront. You may not push for diversity but pushing against it is apparently quite the hobby.
     
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    If you think your tired about talking Last Jedi wait until were on year 3 of this new story. We all know all the reactions people are going to take. The question does Star Wars have enough juice left in it to make another billion dollars off a movie, this time with no familiar characters and half of the fanbase in revolt.


    Jason
     
  20. Spot261

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    Disney will make their money back of Star Wars one way or another. It may not happen all in one go but they own the franchise for the foreseeable and every new park, every new franchise range, every new film, TV spin off, etc brings in more subscriptions, park tickets, food sold, drinks, toys, t shirts, ornaments, novelty items, shows, the list goes on.

    Everyone gets very focused on the opening weekend at the box office, but the fact is Disney is about a great deal more than that and they know their business model very well indeed. They need to keep putting out new material to generate interest, interest which translates into money spent throughout the gestalt of their money spinning range.

    It's all fuel for their fire.

    Opening a new attraction doesn't mean they're requiring that attraction to immediately make it's own costs back, releasing a film doesn't mean they need to see a massive turnover at the box office because they know that over time it all feeds into the machine. People may not spend billions at Galaxy's Edge for several years, but the fact of it being there will fuel the flow of traffic at Magic Kingdom, Animal Kingdom, EPCOT, etc, it will fuel the flow of people paying to stay at the resorts, eat at the restaurants, buy into holiday packages and time shares, buy Christmas and birthday presents for loved ones, collect badges, toys, bags, ornaments, paintings, photo opportunities, royalties for outsourcing the brand outside companies, blah blah blah

    Trust me on this, anyone claiming the sequels have been a failure for Disney is showing a total failure to grasp the model they use as a company.