A ‘Star Wars’ Movie Directed by a Woman Is ‘Absolutely’ Happening, Vows Kathleen Kennedy

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

So your fine with a female director when you’ve seen her work and liked it? Then why would you worry about another female director when the same exact person who hired the one you liked in the first place is making that decision. If she already hired Chow and put her in charge of Obi Wan, why can’t see make another good decision with this project that we know nothing about? If you examine those she’s hired, you’ve complained more about the men than the women. So maybe you’d be happier with more diversity.

Because she is putting this aspect FIRST. She has also mismanaged almost every project she has worked on. I put story first. That's not say I don't think diverse people can be involved. But if you want to put diversity first, that is fine. I disagree.. but that's ok

 

[BillJ]

Because she is putting this aspect FIRST.

Has she? Her track record up to this point says other wise. Every film installment has been written and directed by men. White men.

She has also mismanaged almost every project she has worked on.

Since she still has a job, I'd say Disney disagrees with you. And they are the ones who are banking these projects.

 

[Garak]

Because she is putting this aspect FIRST.

Considering there are talented female directors, your point is completely irrelevant

Your argument basically boils down to "I think the movie will be terrible because I don't think women know how to direct movies"

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Considering there are talented female directors, your point is completely irrelevant

Your argument basically boils down to "I think the movie will be terrible because I don't think women know how to direct movies"

No that's not what I said, or what I implied

I implied that the movie is terrible because they put diversity over story.

It's the same reason I believe, in writing, that "how a story is told" is more important that "what the story is"., I'm not saying it's not close (I give 55% to "how" and 45% to "what" and in this case I give 70% to what the story is and 30% to the race or sex organs of the people working on it, unless their race and gender is an inherent aspect of that story.. like it would be if you were making a picture like Coming to America or that MLK movie)

But strawmanning my arguments, rephrasing them a new way to easily attack my position just won't work

 

[BillJ]

...rephrasing them a new way to easily attack my position just won't work

Because you're a bigot, and can't see beyond it.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Because you're a bigot, and can't see beyond it.

If I was a bigot I probably would have not liked the fact that certain characters are a different race or gender. But my main concern is the story

 

[BillJ]

But my main concern is the story

You keep telling yourself that. All the while getting your underpants in a twist because a wimmenz might direct one of the movies.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

I personally hardly care if woman does.

Star Wars needs a lot of help[ right now in other areas

 

[The Wormhole]

I always said KK has her mind on entirely the wrong things. I mean she has not learned. And as for diversity.. I always believed that story comes before that, that the real fans no matter their race or gender would rather get lost in a well thought out universe than having their own race being personally represented. I don't remember any complaints that there not any hispanic or enough black hobbits.

Okay brah

This will go as well as the ratings for Doctor Who since they woke cast Jodie Whitaker. It's dumb.

If a woman is the right choice, fine, but when you go out of your way to force one in, it's just stupidity. Kennedy cares more about being woke than making good movies, which is why her trilogy absolutely sucked.

And yes, forced diversity is a thing. Get woke, go broke.

If people don't like your product, then maybe they should focus on the product quality. Feloni is better than anyone they have.

Gotcha brah

Again, I just put story abopve diversity. I don't think many true SW fans complained about the lack of diversity (even if they were not personally represented) until recent years and "outrage" culture became a thing on Twitter. The fact is, of course Hollywood in general needs to increase opportunities for all, and this is not limited to Lucasfilm. But story should be first. I did not watch Coming To America and think to myself (why are there not white people? The line between what you might "inclusion" and what you might call "pandering" might be different for all of you, but there will always be a problem when agenda, virtue signalling, or status quo shifting comes AHEAD of storytelling.. because the stories will always inevitably suffer, and the franchises will be in the headlines for all the wrong reasons, and this is demonstrated by how no one complained when LotR "lacked" diversity, as did no one complained, including myself, when they fired a back actor to play Sam Wilson in the MCU.

Oh, fuck.
LEARN HOW TO SPELL!!!

 

[Awesome Possum]

Because she is putting this aspect FIRST. She has also mismanaged almost every project she has worked on. I put story first. That's not say I don't think diverse people can be involved. But if you want to put diversity first, that is fine. I disagree.. but that's ok

So you just hate PR? Because that’s all this is. She’s really trying to deal with a lot of valid criticism of Disney as a whole. Marvel Studios is dealing with similar issues and have taken moves to address them, they just don’t get the same treatment that Kennedy gets.

 

[JD]

You're right, a goo story is a good story. But All she talks about.. is anything BUT the story. You never hear her talk about anything else.

You want to know why she doesn't talk about the story....... because she's not a writer, so she's not the one coming up with the stories. You want to know one of the things she is in charge, hiring the people who are going to come up with the stories and make the movies. So that is why she talks so much about what kind of people she is going to hire.

No that's not what I said, or what I implied

I implied that the movie is terrible because they put diversity over story.

The decisions about diversity and things like that are usually made at a different point in the process than the story, and unless the characters' races or genders are a part of the story, then one typically doesn't impact the other.

If I was a bigot I probably would have not liked the fact that certain characters are a different race or gender. But my main concern is the story

OK, I've said this before, but I'm going to keep repeating it until you actually respond to me.
You might not be a bigot, but you really do sound like one, so if you really aren't, then you might want to think a bit about what you are posting. If I were you, I would take a step back and reread the things that you have been posting, and look at it all the way we are.
If you really do mean things you are posting the way they sound, then you might not be aware of it, but they do make you a bigot in the eyes of a lot of people.

 

[Garak]

No that's not what I said, or what I implied

I implied that the movie is terrible because they put diversity over story.

Again this point is completely irrelevant

There are talented female directors just like there are talented male directors. So the potential to have a good director is there and it’s clear as day

You don’t even know the name of the woman who would direct this movie, yet you’ve automatically written it off as bad

I also highly doubt you’d say a word if someone came out and said there would only be a male director for this movie

You either don’t have the mental capacity to understand this or you’re completely aware that you sound like a misogynist and don’t care. Those are the only two scenarios at play here

Hanging onto this “story” argument is pathetic. A director isn’t even 100% responsible for the “story” in a movie either, there’s plenty of other factors like writers and the actors themselves that come in to play. It’s a whole bunch of different parts that have to connect well to make the story work

 

[Shaka Zulu]

A female director will be hired, whom Kathleen Kennedy will fire weeks into production.

Please, the low bar for Star Wars is the Holiday Special. So far, every single thing produced for it has been superior to it. In fact the only current known things worse than the Holiday Special are various atrocities, the worst diseases known to infect humans and Michael Bay.

Hell, the Ewok Adventure movies are better than the Holiday Special (and so is anything by Michael Bay, mainly the Transformers movies, IMHO), so yeah, the last three were great except to certain fans that didn't like them.

I personally hardly care if woman does.

Star Wars needs a lot of help[ right now in other areas

Oh yeah? Which ones?

 

[Professor Zoom]

, so yeah, the last three were great except to certain fans that didn't like them.

Excuse me? Certain fans? What does that mean? Not all people who disliked the trilogy--and I liked one, loved another, hated the third--are the "certain fans" who don't like women in their movies. Please don't lump us into that group.

While Rise of Skywalker is better than the Ewok Movies (--actually, is it?) that doesn't suddenly make it a good movie.

 

[Awesome Possum]

I love the Ewok Adventures. I think they were the first Star Wars media I saw as a child and have always held a special place in my heart. I never got the Ewok hate, they were always just part of Star Wars to me.

 

[Campe]

Sigh. All of this again?

 

[Awesome Possum]

I think his ban is up and he just couldn't resist doing the exact same thing.

 

[Spot261]

Again, I just put story abopve diversity. I don't think many true SW fans complained about the lack of diversity (even if they were not personally represented) until recent years and "outrage" culture became a thing on Twitter. The fact is, of course Hollywood in general needs to increase opportunities for all, and this is not limited to Lucasfilm. But story should be first. I did not watch Coming To America and think to myself (why are there not white people? The line between what you might "inclusion" and what you might call "pandering" might be different for all of you, but there will always be a problem when agenda, virtue signalling, or status quo shifting comes AHEAD of storytelling.. because the stories will always inevitably suffer, and the franchises will be in the headlines for all the wrong reasons, and this is demonstrated by how no one complained when LotR "lacked" diversity, as did no one complained, including myself, when they fired a back actor to play Sam Wilson in the MCU.

Thing is, I don't believe you do.

I believe diversity is very much at the forefront of your mind, just for different reasons than it is for others. Your justifications and story criticisms change to suit based on the particulars but in all too many instances it is diversity which is the common factor.

Throughout your posting here your focus has been limited to say the least, repetitive to be more honest and story is not at the forefront. You may not push for diversity but pushing against it is apparently quite the hobby.

 

[Jayson1]

If you think your tired about talking Last Jedi wait until were on year 3 of this new story. We all know all the reactions people are going to take. The question does Star Wars have enough juice left in it to make another billion dollars off a movie, this time with no familiar characters and half of the fanbase in revolt.


Jason

 

[Spot261]

If you think your tired about talking Last Jedi wait until were on year 3 of this new story. We all know all the reactions people are going to take. The question does Star Wars have enough juice left in it to make another billion dollars off a movie, this time with no familiar characters and half of the fanbase in revolt.


Jason

Disney will make their money back of Star Wars one way or another. It may not happen all in one go but they own the franchise for the foreseeable and every new park, every new franchise range, every new film, TV spin off, etc brings in more subscriptions, park tickets, food sold, drinks, toys, t shirts, ornaments, novelty items, shows, the list goes on.

Everyone gets very focused on the opening weekend at the box office, but the fact is Disney is about a great deal more than that and they know their business model very well indeed. They need to keep putting out new material to generate interest, interest which translates into money spent throughout the gestalt of their money spinning range.

It's all fuel for their fire.

Opening a new attraction doesn't mean they're requiring that attraction to immediately make it's own costs back, releasing a film doesn't mean they need to see a massive turnover at the box office because they know that over time it all feeds into the machine. People may not spend billions at Galaxy's Edge for several years, but the fact of it being there will fuel the flow of traffic at Magic Kingdom, Animal Kingdom, EPCOT, etc, it will fuel the flow of people paying to stay at the resorts, eat at the restaurants, buy into holiday packages and time shares, buy Christmas and birthday presents for loved ones, collect badges, toys, bags, ornaments, paintings, photo opportunities, royalties for outsourcing the brand outside companies, blah blah blah

Trust me on this, anyone claiming the sequels have been a failure for Disney is showing a total failure to grasp the model they use as a company.