8x10 In the Forest of the Night (Grading/Discussion) SPOILERS!
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I thought originally, each TARDIS has a mini Eye, which we first saw with the Eighth Doctor. It fed from a central Eye on Gallifrey created by Omega from a black hole and the larger Eye was a central power source. When Gallifrey was destroyed in the Time War, there was no more central Eye, so the TARDIS had to use chronal energy from The Rift to fuel the Doctor's TARDIS eye. In Moffat era, that really has gone unmentioned again. I believe Davies speculated that the Rift ws closed along with The Crack in "The Big Bang" although his comments may have been before The Crack appeared on Trenzalore in TOTD.
Okay, so filling the atmosphere with oxygen would insilate the Earth from a solar flare? Sorry, but wouldn't it make the flames more intense?
Honestly, Clara needs to make up her mind. Does she want the adventuresome life with the Doctor, or does she want a quiet safe life of caring for children? Time to maske up your mind dear. I usually don't mind her, but she just seemed wildly out of character this episode.
And really? The children should be left on Earth to die with their parents? So the kids didn't get a vote? I also suspect that given the choice, most parents would want the Doctor to carry their children to safety.
Honestly, Clara needs to make up her mind. Does she want the adventuresome life with the Doctor, or does she want a quiet safe life of caring for children? Time to maske up your mind dear. I usually don't mind her, but she just seemed wildly out of character this episode.
And really? The children should be left on Earth to die with their parents? So the kids didn't get a vote? I also suspect that given the choice, most parents would want the Doctor to carry their children to safety.
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To the prior comments, I think this would have made for a better Doctor Who Quick Read book than filmed as an episode. The script itself was not only mostly about the children, but felt like it was written for a child's viewing level as well. I guess on the bright side in hindsight, I learned more about the Admiral Nelson and lion statues in Trafalgar Square.
Rewatching the ep. The spirits protecting the Earth made me think of The Green from the Swamp Thing comics.
One thing I appreciate is they didn't tech-tech up a way for the Doctor to use the TARDIS to shield the Earth from the hit--which, when I watched it the first time, I though was going to happen when he left just before the flare hit.
One thing I appreciate is they didn't tech-tech up a way for the Doctor to use the TARDIS to shield the Earth from the hit--which, when I watched it the first time, I though was going to happen when he left just before the flare hit.
If you're not going to have The Doctor acknowledge his history with Coal Hill school, then it's just another generic school and they should stop using it.
Meh, this one didn't do much for me. I'm tired of the kids and school now. The mystery was sort of interesting until the reveal. Actually, I thought the solution was rather obvious--fire proof trees just before a solar flare hits. But, it's cheesey. Tired of Danny Pink too. This story just didn't gel.
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She doesn't do anything. There have been no new clues since almost the beginning. I'd almost wonder if some of her scenes were filmed before they what she was going to be glommed onto the back of.
He doesn't have a history with Coal Hill. Susan did. Unless you are talking about Remembrance of the Daleks. Because in the Months leading up to where caught up with the Unearthly Child while they were in London, the last place he would hang out would in school.
I assume he kept trying to hide the Hand of Omega, but one thing or another kept foiling his attempt to squirrel it away, and that is how the Doctor spent his days.
I sincerely hope they're not really going where they seem to be going with the character according to the trailer.
When we first saw her in "Deep Breath" she spoke of the Doctor as her boyfriend, the same episode that devoted dialogue to make it clear the Doctor was not Clara's boyfriend. Back then, I had the thought that Missy might be Clara or a version of her, anyway, but I dismissed it because it's a bit trite and I had serious doubt they'd do that with such a positive character.
But in today's episode one of the children called her "Miss" and I thought to myself, "Oh shit...". Then the trailer also heavily pointed in a similar direction. Of course, that could be typical misdirection and I do hope it is because otherwise it would devalue a lot of great character moments bewetween her and the Doctor. It would also be a very cruel thing to do.
The trees protect against solar flares, not incoming space freighters that are going to crash.
Of course not. Firefighters have obviously been doing it all wrong for millennia. They should have been using oxygen, not water, to fight fires. What were they thinking?
Of course he has a history with the school. Ian and Barbara were teachers there, and Ian still works there (although apparently the nuWho people will never even mention his name).
"Miss" is what the school kids call their female teachers. Courtney called Clara that in the Moon story.
I liked the Doctor's bookshelves. But the story itself was dumb, scientifically ridiculous (fighting fire with oxygen, uh-huh...
), and I kept expecting Grandma's house to show up when the kid was running through the forest.
Some odd moments in this one, some funny moments in this one. The plot was a bit silly, since at no time does the threat feel real.
Capaldi shows again that he has a great sense of humor. Jenna..... I liked Jenna's acting in a lot of episodes this season, but here, everything felt dialed in.
Danny Pink. What I thought could be a very interesting character, has turned into a dull ornament really. His entire reaction about wanting the truth is normal, but his reaction to being lied to for so long, just feels..... odd. I would be a lot more upset if someone I appereantly care for a lot lies to me so much.
The kids were funnier than I expected, a lot less annoying than I had feared.
So, overall...... a Meh.
Capaldi shows again that he has a great sense of humor. Jenna..... I liked Jenna's acting in a lot of episodes this season, but here, everything felt dialed in.
Danny Pink. What I thought could be a very interesting character, has turned into a dull ornament really. His entire reaction about wanting the truth is normal, but his reaction to being lied to for so long, just feels..... odd. I would be a lot more upset if someone I appereantly care for a lot lies to me so much.
The kids were funnier than I expected, a lot less annoying than I had feared.
So, overall...... a Meh.
It all felt a bit flat for me, as if the pacing was a little off. The fact that neither the Doctor nor any other character seemed to have any impact on the plot didn't help. I thought the kids were great.
Apparently, the thing that didn't save Earth in the 29th century from solar flares was the trees. Maybe the humans cut down all the trees. This could explain why Earth was a gray desert in the 30th century.
This quote was made of Rommel by Field Marshall Gerd von Runstedt. I think it is applicable to Moffat's leadership of Doctor Who.
Moffat has proven that he can do individual episodes well, and is open to story experimentation and new writers and directors, but he lacks the skill and finesse for the seasons. This season is scatter-shot, with the season arc hanging on like an afterthought and Danny Pink being an underdeveloped character. I can understand unknowns in Doctor Who, if the unknown is incidental to the plot. However, when the unknown is integral to the character and is one of the first things we learn about this character, shouldn't this unknown be investigated in an episode?
This quote was made of Rommel by Field Marshall Gerd von Runstedt. I think it is applicable to Moffat's leadership of Doctor Who.
Moffat has proven that he can do individual episodes well, and is open to story experimentation and new writers and directors, but he lacks the skill and finesse for the seasons. This season is scatter-shot, with the season arc hanging on like an afterthought and Danny Pink being an underdeveloped character. I can understand unknowns in Doctor Who, if the unknown is incidental to the plot. However, when the unknown is integral to the character and is one of the first things we learn about this character, shouldn't this unknown be investigated in an episode?
I personally did not, because why the hell would a solar flare threaten the life on Earth?
Because its happened before on the show?
I think the modern Doctor Who is trying to keep the show relatable to their audience by placing their stories on Earth. This was one of the reasons given for the UNIT stories in the Jon Pertwee era. However, the people then realized that they became limited in the kind of stories they could tell, and that was why the series returned to the Doctor and companions visiting other planets.
The CGI was dodgy in this episode. In one sequence, I was thinking, are those panthers closing in on Maebh Arden? Then, it was revealed that those were wolves. (The wolves weren't frightening. It was clear that they were tamed and well cared for.)
I am bewildered by the backstory for Danny Pink. In the first episode, he cried when asked if he killed anyone by the students, implying something bad had happened. Then, he said that he did humanitarian work in Afghan, digging 23 wells, and didn't kill anyone. Later, I learned that he served under aristocratic officers who put their men at risk. Now, I learned that he put himself at risk, hoping that he wouldn't survive. What exactly did happen to Danny Pink in Afghan?
The show gives the impression that the Earth was hit by life-threatening solar flares before, in Siberia in 1908 and in Curacao. Um, the event in Siberia was the result of an extraterrestrial body exploding in the atmosphere. And, Curacao is threatened by tropical storms. So, how did trees protect the Earth in those events?
Finally, it is apparent that the Doctor has forgotten that he learned that plants do communicate, and that he had to stop an invasion of these intelligent plants in his fourth incarnation.
Then, there is the strange monologue at the end, where the Doctor says that humans have a superhuman power of forgetting. It is fear that they remember when they think of forests, and they put this fear in their fairy tales. if humans didn't forget, they wouldn't have wars and would have stopped having babies. What the hell?
So, for me, the episode is pure rubbish.
The CGI was dodgy in this episode. In one sequence, I was thinking, are those panthers closing in on Maebh Arden? Then, it was revealed that those were wolves. (The wolves weren't frightening. It was clear that they were tamed and well cared for.)
I am bewildered by the backstory for Danny Pink. In the first episode, he cried when asked if he killed anyone by the students, implying something bad had happened. Then, he said that he did humanitarian work in Afghan, digging 23 wells, and didn't kill anyone. Later, I learned that he served under aristocratic officers who put their men at risk. Now, I learned that he put himself at risk, hoping that he wouldn't survive. What exactly did happen to Danny Pink in Afghan?
The show gives the impression that the Earth was hit by life-threatening solar flares before, in Siberia in 1908 and in Curacao. Um, the event in Siberia was the result of an extraterrestrial body exploding in the atmosphere. And, Curacao is threatened by tropical storms. So, how did trees protect the Earth in those events?
Finally, it is apparent that the Doctor has forgotten that he learned that plants do communicate, and that he had to stop an invasion of these intelligent plants in his fourth incarnation.
Then, there is the strange monologue at the end, where the Doctor says that humans have a superhuman power of forgetting. It is fear that they remember when they think of forests, and they put this fear in their fairy tales. if humans didn't forget, they wouldn't have wars and would have stopped having babies. What the hell?
So, for me, the episode is pure rubbish.
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