7 years, since ENT left the airwaves

[StarTrek1701]

It just hit me today that its now been 7 years since Enterprise actually left the airwaves. It was a tumultuous journey for such an ambitious project from Star Trek, and it could have been glorious if fucktard UPN didn't interfere from the get go. It started strong, stayed strong for the first half of the 2nd season.. and then trailed off into oblivion. Even a strong fourth season couldn't save this beautifully crafted show. I'd say the production values of Enterprise is still quite unmatched even today.

I know the show doesn't enjoy the mainstream media attention like TOS or TNG. Nor does it have the deep cult of D29 or even the infamy of Voyager. What it does have though is the best series opener of any Trek till now, and the fleshing out of the Andorians as a full fledged race on screen. The Ship itself was a thing of beauty, the cast also the best looking of all other Trek casts. The storylines, some engaging, others drab, like the Trek shows that preceded it.

All in all, bad or good, I enjoyed every episode. I stuck from the beginning till the end. Yeah.. the last episode still sends me on a fit of rage but hey.. they tried LOL. I have never been ashamed to say I was, and am, an Enterprise fan.

Rest in peace, Captain Archer and his crew. You guys are sorely missed.

 

[ChristopherPike]

 

[Sindatur]

I didn't appreciate S1 and S2, and only had a little appreciation for S3 when it originally aired, but, I recently rewatched the Series, and now I appreciate the entire thing, and I'm more bummed than ever, that we didn't at least get S5, where Shran would become a Regular

 

[horatio83]

Good show, nice stories.

 

[Shanndee]

I didn't appreciate S1 and S2, and only had a little appreciation for S3 when it originally aired, but, I recently rewatched the Series, and now I appreciate the entire thing, and I'm more bummed than ever, that we didn't at least get S5, where Shran would become a Regular

I second this. I was suffering fro "Trek Fatigue" when the show originally aired. I am in the process of a re-watch right now and I am kicking myself for not "staying true" during the original run. And the thought of a fifth season with Shran as a regular...sigh.

 

[Enterprise is Great]

Wow...7 years already? Time flies. RIP ENT.

 

[USS Intrepid]

Hard to believe. I'd loved to have seen a fifth season too.

 

[I am Surak]

It just hit me today that its now been 7 years since Enterprise actually left the airwaves. I'd say the production values of Enterprise is still quite unmatched even today.

What it does have though is the best series opener of any Trek till now, and the fleshing out of the Andorians as a full fledged race on screen. The Ship itself was a thing of beauty, the cast also the best looking of all other Trek casts. The storylines, some engaging, others drab, like the Trek shows that preceded it.

You very eloquently put into words what I was thinking too.
ENT is simply the best Trek ever.

 

[Dukhat]

...and it could have been glorious if fucktard UPN didn't interfere from the get go.

I wholeheartedly agree with that statement.

It started strong, stayed strong for the first half of the 2nd season.. and then trailed off into oblivion.

However, I don't quite agree here. I think "Broken Bow" started off very strongly, but then the show almost immediately dropped off in strength for the next two seasons.

The Ship itself was a thing of beauty, the cast also the best looking of all other Trek casts.

Again, I have to disagree. The ship was nothing more than the Akira class that Doug Drexler was able to luckily reform into a more primitive looking vessel. By "best looking," I'm assuming you're referring to the quality of the cast's character and not their physical appearance. In that regard, the only characters that really had some substance were Trip, Phlox and possibly Malcolm. Unfortunately they decided to make Trip countrified, Phlox an alien when he really didn't have to be, and Malcolm a stereotypical stuffed-shirt Brit. Nevertheless, Trip and Phlox were the best characters on that show, while pretty much everyone else was just cardboard.

 

[ReedEnterprise]

And I still want it back!!

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

IT'S NOT TOO LATE!!! EVERYONE IS STILL YOUNG ENOUGH LOOKING!!!

 

[horatio83]

Again, I have to disagree. The ship was nothing more than the Akira class that Doug Drexler was able to luckily reform into a more primitive looking vessel.

Most Trek ships resemble each other and using a stupid background vessel which nobody actually remembers from merely watching the shows is hardly a crime.
Picking a ship without a secondary hull makes perfect sense if you wanna depict one of the first human warp ships.

 

[Dukhat]

Again, I have to disagree. The ship was nothing more than the Akira class that Doug Drexler was able to luckily reform into a more primitive looking vessel.

Most Trek ships resemble each other and using a stupid background vessel which nobody actually remembers from merely watching the shows is hardly a crime.
Picking a ship without a secondary hull makes perfect sense if you wanna depict one of the first human warp ships.

I think you misunderstood my point. UPN actually wanted the Akira class staship to be the NX-01, precisely because everyone remembered how kewl it was. Thanks to Drexler's tinkering of the design, we actually got a more primitive looking ship, but you'd have to be blind not to see that it still looks incredibly like a ship from 200 years in the future. I also never said it was a crime; it was just very annoying to al ot of people. That's why the moniker "Akiraprise" was used so much to describe the ship.

 

[Robert D. Robot]

The NX class was very kewl. I am assuming that this configuration worked pretty well, which is why Starfleet chose to revisit the NX design 200 years later by commissioning construction of the Akira class!

 

[F. King Daniel]

All ship designs are recycled (in-universe and out) in Trek. The Daedalus-class evolved into the Hope-class USS Pasteur seen in "All Good Things", the Enterprise-C from "Yesterday's Enterprise" is an evolution of the TOS/TOS movie Enterprise, and the Akira works the same way as an evolution of the NX-01 Enterprise.

There's even an old FASA design from the 80's called the Loknar-class, which is essentially an NX/Akira-class built with TOS components and without the little pod.

 

[Dukhat]

The NX class was very kewl. I am assuming that this configuration worked pretty well, which is why Starfleet chose to revisit the NX design 200 years later by commissioning construction of the Akira class!

And that's a fine in-universe reason for why the ships look so similar. But I was talking about the real-life reason why the ship looks the way it does.

All ship designs are recycled (in-universe and out) in Trek. The Daedalus-class evolved into the Hope-class USS Pasteur seen in "All Good Things", the Enterprise-C from "Yesterday's Enterprise" is an evolution of the TOS/TOS movie Enterprise, and the Akira works the same way as an evolution of the NX-01 Enterprise.

There's even an old FASA design from the 80's called the Loknar-class, which is essentially an NX/Akira-class built with TOS components and without the little pod.

It's one thing to say that one design evolved from another. It's another thing entirely to use the exact same design for an Earth ship from 200 years in the past, which was UPN's original intention.

 

[Robert D. Robot]

^ I understand that some fans have a different view on this issue from what I have, but -for me- the very logical, in-universe explanation is the major (and perhaps only) factor, making the real-life reasoning for the NX class design interesting as only a bit of fan trivia.

The NX is no more the exact same design as the Akira than the Constitution class is an exact design as the Ambassador class.

I was very pleased to see the NX as something different from the "standard" Starfleet ship configuration that Captain Christopher radioed in as he tried to intercept NCC-1701 back in TOS....

As much as I like the "primitive" look of the Daedalus class, such a design (or something similar) just wouldn't give me the feel I would like for the hero ship of a Trek series. NX looks like it is in motion, even when standing still. The spherical primary hull of Daedalus makes me think of taking a very slow (and complicated!) trip to Europa with HAL.....

 

[StarTrek1701]

What was funnier is that Andromeda went off the airwaves the same day (!) as ENT. Strange isnt it?

 

[horatio83]

Again, I have to disagree. The ship was nothing more than the Akira class that Doug Drexler was able to luckily reform into a more primitive looking vessel.

Most Trek ships resemble each other and using a stupid background vessel which nobody actually remembers from merely watching the shows is hardly a crime.
Picking a ship without a secondary hull makes perfect sense if you wanna depict one of the first human warp ships.

I think you misunderstood my point. UPN actually wanted the Akira class staship to be the NX-01, precisely because everyone remembered how kewl it was. Thanks to Drexler's tinkering of the design, we actually got a more primitive looking ship, but you'd have to be blind not to see that it still looks incredibly like a ship from 200 years in the future. I also never said it was a crime; it was just very annoying to al ot of people. That's why the moniker "Akiraprise" was used so much to describe the ship.

I think tt was Berman's decision and not UPN's. Eaves did after all makes some sketches about a hypothetical NX-01 that resembled the NCC-1701.
I did not know the Akira when I first saw ENT because it was a ship that appeared for a few seconds in the background of FC (and I have seen FC far too often) and some DS9 episodes. Nothing wrong with consuming background material as fan, a lot wrong with viewing everything concerning Trek from this perspective instead of the natural perspective of a guy who just watches the movies and episodes.

 

[horatio83]

Again, I have to disagree. The ship was nothing more than the Akira class that Doug Drexler was able to luckily reform into a more primitive looking vessel.

Most Trek ships resemble each other and using a stupid background vessel which nobody actually remembers from merely watching the shows is hardly a crime.
Picking a ship without a secondary hull makes perfect sense if you wanna depict one of the first human warp ships.

I think you misunderstood my point. UPN actually wanted the Akira class staship to be the NX-01, precisely because everyone remembered how kewl it was. Thanks to Drexler's tinkering of the design, we actually got a more primitive looking ship, but you'd have to be blind not to see that it still looks incredibly like a ship from 200 years in the future. I also never said it was a crime; it was just very annoying to al ot of people. That's why the moniker "Akiraprise" was used so much to describe the ship.

I think it was Berman's decision and not UPN's. Eaves did after all makes some sketches about a hypothetical NX-01 that resembled the NCC-1701.
I did not know the Akira when I first saw ENT because it was a ship that appeared for a few seconds in the background of FC (and I have seen FC far too often) and some DS9 episodes. Nothing wrong with consuming background material as fan, a lot wrong with viewing everything concerning Trek from this perspective instead of the natural perspective of a guy who just watches the movies and episodes.