38 minutes of the film in Brasil - SPOILERS!

[yousirname]

For what it's worth, while they were certainly not meant to be in the moment, in TOS and the movies, a lot of McCoy's best rants and sarcastic one-liners were actually quite humorous.

MURDERERS! ASSASSINS! NO, FRIEND, I WON'T HURT YOU! IT'S THEY WHO DO THE KILLING! DON'T RUN!

 

[LtChange]

There is only one thing I don't like

Spoiler: Spock and Harrison

the whole chasing scene sounds like what Anakin did in Star Wars II on Coruscant so yet another similar scene to Star Wars. But I will not judge until I see it

Yup, cause every chase scene ever in a sci fi movie was about Anakin chasing a bounty hunter. Yup..

RAMA

I said it that I reserve the right to change my mind ....

 

[Nerys Myk]

Two cat girls? Nice to know that female respect has come a long way since TOS.

Threesomes are disrespectful towards women? Or is it sex? Better with two cat men?

 

[Franklin]

Two cat girls? Nice to know that female respect has come a long way since TOS.

Threesomes are disrespectful towards women? Or is it sex? Better with two cat men?

I've been wondering if the translation is muddled, and what we see is him in bed with two cats curled up at the foot of his bed.

Although that may be worse than Kirk being in bed with two women. James T. Kirk, a cat person?

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Jeyl's just parroting the current campaign of complaint being carried on by a couple of prudes at Trekmovie.

Now though, aren't the Trek folks just doing Skyfall?

 

[SalvorHardin]

More, English speaking, reports have emerged.
No real spoilers here, just a mention of those events from the 9 minute Hobbit footage.

Star Trek into Darkness – the best Trek ever?

this afternoon we joined a select group of film journalists for a second screening, this time being treated to the opening 28 minutes plus two action sequences from later in the film.

In December I wrote that the preview audience had wanted to “peek around the edges of the screen to see what comes next.” With our wishes at least partially granted today, it’s fair to say we were all thrilled by what we saw.
We’re going to rein in our excitement and keep spoilers to the absolute minimum here, largely only repeating those we divulged in December.

The first thing to report is that the order of the scenes we saw before Christmas have been swapped, meaning the film now opens with Kirk and Spock’s mission to save a planet and its inhabitants by freezing a volcano.
This gives the film a punchier opening and also sidesteps having an opening which was deeply and too much reminiscent of Star Trek V.
Speaking of past Trek films, Star Trek into Darkness has some nice nods to the movies and shows which went before, familiar names such as Daystrom and Kelvin make an appearance.
In addition, the Star Trek: The Motion Picture flag officer uniforms have been revived with a refreshed look which nicely complements the film’s take on William Ware Theiss’s original series designs.

The cast’s portrayals of the Enterprise crew seems more confident than first time around, and each seems so familiar that it’s easy to buy into the suggestion that they grow up to be William Shatner and co.

As for Benedict Cumberbatch, his portrayal of the film’s bad guy is so stunningly mesmerising that even if he turns out not to be Khan (as some fans suspect he really is), I predict the audience are going to love him anyway.

The action sequences defy spoiler-less description, it’ll have to suffice to say that they’re bigger, louder and more energetic than anything the franchise has offered before.

As with the December screening, today’s footage was introduced by JJ Abrams’ long time collaborator Bryan Burk who revealed that, with less than 8 weeks before it’s UK premiere, the film is still being edited and poured over “frame by frame”.

http://www.seenit.co.uk/star-trek-into-darkness-the-best-trek-ever/0326229/

Producer Bryan Burk was on hand this afternoon to introduce the opening thirty minutes of footage and two more clips (after a very friendly, personalised introduction from Abrams himself), explaining their choice to show it in 2D. With Bad Robot known for their Nolan-scale secrecy, this taster served to considerably heighten anticipation for the final 3D product, leaving us in the dark as to the true identity of Cumberbatch’s John Harrison and any major plot points.

Throwing us straight into the action with no time spent recapping the events of the last film, the tone is set from the start – exciting and full throttle, but always with a healthy shred of comedy. While trying to save a planet from being destroyed, Spock is unfortunately dropped into the middle of a very active volcano, upping the action stakes right from the start. However, in the undergrowth below, Kirk and Bones are running away from a hostile tribe, cracking jokes and keeping it light – we’re carrying on exactly where we left off and this thankfully feels like a natural continuation.
One of the standout elements from this opening footage is the incredible use of colour. With stunning primary reds and yellows used to great effect against the backdrop of the luminescent lava that threatens to engulf our favourite Vulcan, the 3D experience screams to be seen on the biggest IMAX screen you can find.

Having completely forgotten Noel Clarke was involved, the opening sequence involving him and our first meeting with John Harrison is set in a futuristic London and, more specifically, a children’s hospital. What unfolds here sets the wheels in motion for the phenomenally impressive devastation we got to see in the third clip – all the more impressive when we remember the effects still aren’t finished. This assures that INTO DARKNESS will keep an element of grounded, human realism to it alongside its crazy creatures, and setting it in London creates a surprisingly seamless parallel to what is happening out in deepest, darkest space.

Everything you expect, we witnessed. From Spock and Kirk continued in a constant battle of wit, Kirk bed hopping and wisecracking, and space scenes that boggle the mind, this footage promises so much more. It’s exciting to learn that there is a significant progression in the amount of footage shot in IMAX following on from the success of what was achieved in MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE – GHOST PROTOCOL, with some stomach-churning aerial shots involving cityscapes and water guaranteed to blow your mind.

Though the editing, effects and music were not finished, J.J. Abrams’ eagerly anticipated sequel-without-a-colon looks certain to blow 2009’s STAR TREK out of the water in regards to both scale and ambition. And the best bit of all? You’re so engrossed that your mind doesn’t allow you to once think about STAR WARS.

http://www.thehollywoodnews.com/2013/03/08/star-trek-into-darkness-footage-reaction/

 

[thumbtack]

and, yes, first post!

No.

 

[Jeyl]

Threesomes are disrespectful towards women?

No. Star Trek is. Show me a female character in this movie who won't be romantically involved or depicted as a sex object and I'll give it a pass. I can name a lot of male characters from the last movie who aren't depicted as sex objects and don't have any intimate relationships with any other character.

 

[Tom Servo]

Threesomes are disrespectful towards women?

No. Star Trek is. Show me a female character in this movie who won't be romantically involved or depicted as a sex object and I'll give it a pass. I can name a lot of male characters from the last movie who aren't depicted as sex objects and don't have any intimate relationships with any other character.

Um, Amanda?

Ta daaaaaa.

Your obsession with proving that that film is sexist is boggling to me. Hell it even took Uhura, who really originally wasn't part of the big 3, and elevated her to that status. She does more in that film then she ever did in the original show.

I suppose TFF is sexist too, since not only did it have a cat lady...it had a stripper cat lady.

 

[SalvorHardin]

Threesomes are disrespectful towards women?

No. Star Trek is. Show me a female character in this movie who won't be romantically involved or depicted as a sex object and I'll give it a pass. I can name a lot of male characters from the last movie who aren't depicted as sex objects and don't have any intimate relationships with any other character.

So, romantic involvement & intimate relationships are disrespectful towards women?

 

[RAMA]

My post to the whiners on Trekmovie:

260. RAMA - March 8, 2013 I honestly can’t believe what I’m reading…when did Trek fans become so prudish??? How many women did Kirk have implied sex with or relations with in TOS?? Quite a few. I see nothing wrong with a single adult man or woman (no double standard here) having consensual sex as the please (within reason of course right WIlt?). The only reason that it may appear that Kirk had less sex in TOS was the fact that they skirted around network sensors and showed things like putting their boots back on, and because they didn’t have a budget to use makeup on the aliens he had sex with, which he certainly DID do…different ecosystems, different DNA notwithstanding. So give it a rest you crybabies.

http://www.trekbbs.com/showpost.php?p=7773757&postcount=4

Threesomes are disrespectful towards women?

No. Star Trek is. Show me a female character in this movie who won't be romantically involved or depicted as a sex object and I'll give it a pass. I can name a lot of male characters from the last movie who aren't depicted as sex objects and don't have any intimate relationships with any other character.

So, romantic involvement & intimate relationships are disrespectful towards women?

That's what I thought too. By using that logic it's disrespectful towards Vulcans to be in a relationship with a female because Spock is the only Vulcan in the crew.

Also by the logic on the Trekmovie thread it is disrespectful towards men if they are in a threesome as well.

I think it's kind of inhernet in TOS that the cast is mostly male, and it was an element that didnt change, but the women get more screen time now.

 

[KirkianLogic]

and, yes, first post!

No.

Uhh, what do you mean "no"? That was my first post on this forum.

Oh, and, btw, thanks for the warm welcome

 

[Locutus of Bored]

There is only one thing I don't like

Spoiler: Spock and Harrison

the whole chasing scene sounds like what Anakin did in Star Wars II on Coruscant so yet another similar scene to Star Wars. But I will not judge until I see it

Except:

Spoiler: Scene

- They're the ones being chased, whereas Anakin and Obi-Wan were doing the chasing.
- The AotC chase was on the city planet of Coruscant, this is in a primitive world covered in red forests, oceans, and a big ass volcano.
- The AotC chase was in flying cars, this is on foot.
- The AotC chase was set off by an assassination attempt, this was set off by an attempt to rescue the villagers and prevent them from seeing the shuttle.
- The action was focused on one location in the AotC chase whereas the action is split between Kirk and McCoy and Spock, Uhura, and Sulu in different locations here.

So, really, other than all that, it's exactly the same because it's a chase scene involving some humorous dialogue, which has never been done before except in Star Wars and Star Trek.

So basically he's now the comedy routine. Along with Scotty.

Sure, if you want to baselessly extrapolate McCoy's entire role in a two-hour film based on the four-minute vignette I very briefly outlined above and the single word I used to describe his dialogue in that part, I guess you could say that. But that would be rather ridiculous, and not what I was suggesting with my comment at all.

How do you know I didn't mean that he's a comedy routine in the first 38 mins?

Because you would have specified that if that's what you meant, and because your comment makes it sound as if that the only role he's relegated to play in the film.

 

[Flake]

Fans before 7th March 2013: ARGH WHY THE SECRECY, WHYYYYYYYYY its killing the movie. JJ ABRAMS YOUR SUCH AN ASSHOLE this is ruining everything? WHY WHY THE SECRECY!! DAMN YOU JJ ABRAMSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!

Fans after 7th March 2013: OMFG OMG! TOO much information! This is too much! I cannae take anymore !!! GO back to secrecy please PLEASE JJ! DAMN YOU, DAMN YOU ALL TO HELLL!!!!! BAD ROBOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Franklin]

I wonder what the reaction would be if these "cat women" in bed with Kirk turned out to be cameos by Julie Newmar and Lee Meriwether.

 

[KirkusOveractus]

I wonder what the reaction would be if these "cat women" in bed with Kirk turned out to be cameos by Julie Newmar and Lee Meriwether.

And there goes my coffee...

 

[shapeshifter]

Fortunately my coffee was still brewing when I read that.

Anyway, not reading the spoilers, (thanks to all for their consideration with the spoiler tags ) but the conversations about them are fun.

 

[Lord Garth FOI]

Jeyl's just parroting the current campaign of complaint being carried on by a couple of prudes at Trekmovie.

Now though, aren't the Trek folks just doing Skyfall?

Yeah, though I generally don't post over at Trekmovie anymore
(It's much more fun to chuckle at the apparently high level of retardation that has bloomed there since the good ole days)
Even I was shocked at the puritanical prudes who didn't want an homage to Kirk being unmistakably Shatnerian Kirk in banging broads.
Kirk banged broads, more chicks than Bond, get over it. It's part of his charm

 

[KirkusOveractus]

Jeyl's just parroting the current campaign of complaint being carried on by a couple of prudes at Trekmovie.

Now though, aren't the Trek folks just doing Skyfall?

Yeah, though I generally don't post over at Trekmovie anymore
(It's much more fun to chuckle at the apparently high level of retardation that has bloomed there since the good ole days)
Even I was shocked at the puritanical prudes who didn't want an homage to Kirk being unmistakably Shatnerian Kirk in banging broads.
Kirk banged broads, more chicks than Bond, get over it. It's part of his charm

Exactly. For some reason, there is this theory that's sprung up, probably out of the worship at the altar of Shatner, that it was Saint James T. Kirk who commanded the Enterprise. You know, the one who went to court the girl with the parents' permission and sat on the porch with the light on and sip lemonade.

I once related some of what folks over there would say in the way of criticizing Pine's Kirk to my wife, who casually watches Trek, and even she said, "Um, have those people even WATCHED Star Trek?"

 

[Lord Garth FOI]

Nah has nothing to do with being pro shatner. Shatner was also like Kirk a heralded Hollywood cocksman and everyone knows it. In fact his cocksmanship was built into the character. If anything for some odd reason many Trekkers feel the need to bash him which is further evidence of blooming retardation within the Trek community.
It's more about being an uptight politically correct nazi prude and thank lord they aren't making these films for Trekkers and prudes