Discussion in 'Fan Art' started by Norsehound, Nov 29, 2018.
Here are some designs you might like to have as minis
Recently, I've been thinking about projects and the passions that sustained them. It brought me back to the trek game I was designing, and how much I missed just working on it. I've decided now to come back to it and revive the project. Regardless of whether it gets a free release to the internet or whether I can pitch it successfully to a company with the license, I want to finish it.
It started as the Trek game I always wanted to have and play. I think for the sake of this passion project and making it a reality, I'm going to put aside legal concerns and just work on something that makes me happy. It still remains the one project that has held my attention for a long period of time when so many others just come and go thanks to what I suspect is ADHD...
Anyways, another difference from when I last touched this and now is that I have a 3D printer.
There are a few errors here and there but for the most part they come out satisfactorily. A small asterisk on the Sydney- it's visibly reduced in order to look more like the small transport it's supposed to be, rather than being sized similarly to the Constitution and having a lot more bulk. The ship beneath the Okinawa is the Errant Venture- that courier ship that participated in the Nogrua Regatta of the comics.
Now that I have a transport mini it enables me to stress test some transportation missions in Captains. It's one of the few specialist ships that I tracked out for game development. I'm trying to decide what to print next, perhaps the Soyuz or dare to print the Ariel.
Those models look awesome! Did you design the files yourself or download them? If downloaded, where from?
Some of these I designed myself, but I got a boost from FuryOfASeraph, one of my trek buddies from the days of Dynaverse.net when Starfleet Command was pretty big. If there's interest I can start uploading them to something like Thingverse.
The Class III Neutronic Fuel carrier is based on the model Thomas Marrone built for STO. Since I love nearly everything from the TMP era of course I had to do one.
My Take (why not?): As the Federation economy was stabilizing thanks to the efforts of Starfleet, more and more neutronic fuel carriers were needed to shuttle larger quantities of fuel across Federation space to support the newer engines and increased traffic. Previously Starfleet relied on classes such as Model 34 C-2, the NC-3 Kobyashi Maru class, and the Akarowasei class. Demand was so high even refitted Tritium-class freighters were reactivated for this purpose. The commercial sector responded with the elegant Lotus-flower class, but Starfleet sought a more utilitarian vessel that could be manufactured in bulk. The simple Class-III utilized the already-approved Miranda-class hull structure, added updated cargo-hauling material from the NC-3 Kobyashi-Maru class. So many of these were manufactured that they remained in service for over a century in various cargo hauling capacities- to the degree that the image of the class replaced the outmoded NC-3 design in the infamous Kobyashi Maru scenario in starfleet command exit exams.
I definitely have an interest in you uploading those to Thingiverse. I already bought a 3d printer, (Anycubic Photon) I just need to set the thing up and start figuring out how to print with it, and those little guys would be super fun.
Cool! I'll see what I can get to. Most of these minis are configured for Shapeways printing, but I'm printing from home because it's cheaper and most of the main classes are done.
But... just spent today making my printer poop this out.
It's the tallest and most delicate mini to come out of the printer and I'm glad it came out okay. Not sure how it's going to work, but it's the biggest ship (exceeding even the Z-1 and L-24) in the game.
That's a beautiful model.
Fredrikstad class shuttle carrier great job looking forward to the paint job
That's the Ariel, Fredrikstad appears to have launch ramps that I didn't include.
Look at that one, big Happy fleet!
Amazing! I've always liked the little Gallant, so it's lovely to see it as part of your fleet.
I like it too, it seems to slide well into the TMP aesthetic and be something neat and different instead of a cut-paste of Refit Enterprise components. I have an idea to try to make them playable in that game of mine as kind of a starter ship class that you can graduate from.
I have a few models I've done in the middle of here that I haven't shown off. Here's one, the Phase-II Enterprise:
My Take (Again, why not?): Though the Endeavour refit had swapped out the nacelles and navigational deflector of an Achernar Constitution variant, the Phase-II Constitution was to represent the next generation of Federation technology. Planned for both refits of existing Constitutions and newbuilds, Phase-II represented the maturity of many 2260s technologies. Three Phase-II pathfinder hulls were ordered. Though Phase-II was ultimately leapfrogged by the technologies built into the Enterprise class, and Phase-II stalled as an interim design generation that manifested only in a few places.
All three Phase-IIs were finished and served with distinction. One of them, originally ordered as 1803 Altair, was renamed the Scheherazad to honor her surviving crew from NCC-1621. Scheherazad became a legend in her own right, her most famous accomplishment was coming to the aid of Star Outpost 12 when it was besieged by an invading force (later identified as the Cardassians).
I have compiled images and sources for a manner of craft. One area of my particular focus is the FASA ships because, more than once, FASA was referenced in other media (Even appearing onscreen once, in the form of the Orion Wanderer). One of these is the Refit Larson-class U.S.S. Caspian, NCC-5507, as a training target for Riker in his academy days.
I admit I'm not wild about the Larson's design, but I'm kind of moved to include it in the game I'm making (eventually, I have so many ships as you can see), because this is one of the instances of a now-extinct FASA ship getting more visibility. But it's... kinda dull.
My take: The original Larsons were envisioned as heavy combat ship classes to complement the numerous Saladin-class vessels as group leaders. The Larsons were also a bid to present a new cruser paradigm by operating on only one nacelle and additional hull space mated to the primary hull, overcoming perceived limitations in the Constitutions. Ultimately they were seen as underpowered and over-emphasized. But in the 2270s an attempt was made to retrofit them with the benefits of the Enterprise's refit program, bringing these otherwise spare hulls into some kind of useful capability. They were only moderately successful, serving more to lay the groundwork for the longer-lived Miranda class which overcame their shortcomings. Near the end of their careers Larsons were retired to inner-system patrol and defense duties, before ultimately being retired. By the 2310s the Caspian was one of the few ships remaining in any kind of service, acting as a training vessel.
Bashed this together when I have other things I need to be doing :T
I wanted to have a Lynx playing piece, because this is also a neat one-off that builds off of the TOS instances of time travelling. The best Idea for how it would work wouldn't integrate that well with the rest of the game as is, and simulating paradoxes and changing the timeline is outside the scope of what I want to do. Right now the Lynx exists as a classified mission where the players need to go back in time and rescue it, but that's it.
My Take (for whatever it's worth): Time travel had been one of those engineering and scientific myths until practical hard-data had been produced by the Enterprise on the disastrous Exo III mission. Further experimentation to the past with the same starship established enough data for Starfleet to take the matter under serious consideration. After significant debate within the higher echelons of Starfleet Command, a purpose-built timeship was put into commission. Lynx was one of two ships constructed for the purposes of temporal investigation and reconnaissance, their existence classified at the highest level.
Section 31 were the primary operators of the Lynx and her unnamed sister. The first few assignments were simple observation tasks before she became inadvertently involved in a cross-dimension, cross-time stream conflict. She was destroyed in the year 2382, attempting to stop the Ambassador-class U.S.S. Enterprise-C (instead of the proper Olympia-class Enteprise-C) from nullifying the prime timeline.
These are so cool. Wish I had them 35 years ago when I did tabletop miniature wargaming.
Aye. Wish we had a Trek minis ship battle game that is more intuitive to play than SFB/FASA, but not garbage like Attack Wing.
So another ship caught my attention and it didn't look too hard to bash together. The Renner:
Looking at my small ships I felt the Renner could fit into the roster as the jeep ship that was more of a modern outing than the Rim Explorer, and was more of an economical craft than the Okinawas and Gallant. Outpost commanders can lean on these stupid stock ships for staying power while their other starships are a little more sophisticated.
My Take: The V'ger crisis shone an uncomfortable light on the roster of small ships in the Federation- many of which were older 2260s or Phase-II offshoots. The rest were specialized science vessels ill-suited to patrol. While other technologies needed time to mature, the Renner was quickly developed off the back of the Enterprise refit technologies and thrown into service. While billed as an impressive attacker, in reality it was a frigate with cruiser speed and some more resiliency than other frigates (such as the Rim Explorer's type). These ships served on border sectors with the Klingon and Romulan Empires before being quietly phased out of service as the Okinawa and Akula classes matured to take their place in the mid to late 2280s.
....and Another one, the Daran (and derivative Knox class). This one is interesting in terms of popping up in other things because as far as I know it's the only non-FASA star ship from outside sources to appear in the Marvel comics.
Memory Beta calls this a Miranda-class, but there's no mistaking the stubby hull and lack of a rollbar. At first I thought it was the Knox, but I remembered there are some ships out there that look nearly identical to one another with minor differences (so it goes with fan-made trek designs). I tracked it down to its source and, sure enough, the Daran itself is a variant of the Knox and Ships of the Star Fleet even calls it out.
This one wasn't hard to do as it's just lopping off the back of the Miranda and rearranging some parts. It was simple to do also.
My Take: At the peak of tensions with the Klingons, Starfleet wanted to further fill out light combatant craft to bolster starfleet's numbers behind the border in the event of open conflict with the Klingons. The Daran platform was designed off the backs of the Miranda-class hull platform, cutting scientific facilities and reducing hull structure to make a compact version of an already compact cruiser. On the design board, Darans were intended to be the balanced class with scientific and support amenities that were traded out for power plants and firepower in the Knox class (which was armed with twin megaphaser mounts). They served for a time as tensions broke in the 2290s, with many Knoxes mothballed while Darans served as inter-colony support and protection. The Darans served for many, many years in adequate service as the frontier left them behind in the mid-regions of the Federation.
Renner was by Ralph Gonzalez of the Miami Naval Yards
Daran (and Knox) is a Todd Guenther design from ships of the Star Fleet Volume One.
Both of them were published in the Federation Reference Series and other FRS publications along with my Ariel.
Awesome work, to say the least!
How about that one FASA Klingon design (I can’t recall the class name, honestly, but I think it was a battleship, maybe?) that was basically a block with the stereotypical bridge module on a short, stubby neck?
Or at least the side view was a block with a ‘head’ sticking out of it. Lol...
Ugh if you're talking about the Fat Man... no. I wouldn't want it and I can't think of a place to stick it in the game.
A lot of the pure "wartime classes" I avoid because I don't see them featuring. The major powers bring those out when it's time to kick off the war of 2293- the players are supposed to be captains trying to head this off. While I would like to still do the Z-1 and L-24, I don't see myself doing assault ships like that.
The One Wing though... :\
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