1960's and risqué clothes?
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There is an illusion of choice.
I would fall over on the spot, so would you, if the women's beach volleyball team showed up and some of them were wearing knee length shorts and baggy tops.
Does it happen?
So I googled the dress code (not knowing) and discovered that women have fairly recently been allowed to wear something other than the bikini, the driving force being religious beliefs in the first instance.
Men, however, may not dispense with the t shirt because it allows them to have an identifying number on.
Which seems remarkably convenient.
So I googled the dress code (not knowing) and discovered that women have fairly recently been allowed to wear something other than the bikini, the driving force being religious beliefs in the first instance.
Men, however, may not dispense with the t shirt because it allows them to have an identifying number on.
Which seems remarkably convenient.
Ah, a great victory for women's rights, enabling them to freely increase the skin areas where they can get skin cancer. to include those where men can get it. Clearly getting as much skin cancer as men is a desirable goal.
See the article I linked to in the previous post. (currently, post 175 in this thread)
No, they have a choice, as Egypt demonstrated in the 2016 Olympics
Egypt v Germany
Nope, I wouldn't. Of course, my belief in a woman's right to choice extends beyond their reproductive rights.
Then surely a man should have the right to expose his body if it's preferable from a practical standpoint?
It's really not required for the player to have a shirt on to make his number visible, or for the ref to be able to identify one of four players on the court.
The Egyptian example was driven by religious prohibition, not individual choice.
Doesn't really hold up in the context of this discussion.
Gene Roddenberry was, by a great many reports, a swinger. A stereotypical, always on the prowl, wolf. He loved the ladies. He loved them even more in short skirts and would attend many of the fittings (which even then was thought odd). Thank God that wasn't the era of #MeToo movement or he would've gone on trial (though, to be fair, he was no Cosby or Weinstein).
From what I read, prior to 2012, the US Team was required to wear a one-piece or bikini.
I wouldn't argue against it.
In the context of this discussion, the option is there for more coverage if the players want it. That they elect to not go with that option seems to throw some people into a fit.
from the article I linked to before.
The sport's biggest star, Kerri Walsh Jennings, has been adamant. It's her choice to wear a bikini...
No, my point is that the Egyptian team were allowed to cover up in order to appease religious restrictions inherent in their culture, which is quite distinct from feminism.
One is about choice, the other is about balancing competing external authorities.
One empowers and gives agency, the other is merely a compromise between others who would take that agency away, like Roddenberry competing with the network censors fir control of his actress's bodies.
Glad you agree on the men though, the choice is only a choice if it is reflected across the board, otherwise it's still a distinction between genders which cannot be justified by practical considerations.
Not sure that being a "swinger" quite covers it.
Promiscuity does not equate to a lack of respect and #metoo have no objection to someone simply being a "ladies man" and having many partners. What they are about is the sub criminal behaviour which is still controlling, coercive, objectifying or otherwise indicative of an imbalance of power.
Well, if Grace Lee was actually referring to Roddenberry when she detailed her abuse by The Executive, he wasn't really much better.
Oh God, I really do not believe she was. In fact, I think Solow said that he knew who it was and if he had known back when it happened that individual would have been fired. I maybe critical of The Great Bird from tie to time but in no way do I believe he would try and force himself on a woman.
Unpopular opinion? The Star Trek TOS uniforms are the very apex of human attire. I’ve never seen anything quite like it. The men look great; the women look great. Granted, they are good-looking TV people, but, still. My wife and niece and I, and some friends, wore Star Trek costumes for my 40th birthday last year, and, everyone looked really rad!
{{citation needed}}
Don't forget Grace was a hardcore Christian in later life and big into forgiveness.
That crossed my mind too.
Allowed by the 2012 rule change. Nothing I've read on the subject indicates that the Egyptian team received any special disposition for their uniforms other than being allowed under the new rules. I'd be interested in seeing a citation if that is not the case.
It's funny, The same year (2016) that Egypt showed up in their uniforms, April Ross and Kerri Walsh Jennings had their sponsors design a unique uniform for the same Olympic Games. Four years after the rule change, not only was the bikini still their choice, but they wanted a better version.
Their choice.
I think you're recalling Solow saying he would have fired studio personnel for making racist comments to Nichelle Nichols, had they been reported at the time.
At no point has Solow made any indication he knew the identity of Grace's assailant. Indeed, his Inside Star Trek book refers to two assaults. Grace says this is wrong and that there was only one assault in her book.
Gary Lockwood's book recalls Gene forcibly kissing a woman during an audition on The Lieutenant. She ran out in tears. That's textbook sexual assault, not "swinging."
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