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‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

Snyder didn't actually refer to Batman by name at all. The press release said they have yet to cast the new Batman. There's no information beyond that so far.

I wasn't there, but this is what I read:

Zack Snyder, who made a surprise appearance at Comic-Con today, breaking the news to audiences there, later said, “I’m so excited to begin working again with Henry Cavill in the world we created, and I can’t wait to expand the DC Universe in this next chapter. Let’s face it, it’s beyond mythological to have Superman and our new Batman facing off, since they are the greatest Super Heroes in the world.”

http://batman-news.com/2013/07/20/warner-bros-announces-batman-superman-movie-for-2015/
 
Who says they're trying to set up a new Batman franchise. It's too soon, and they've got plenty on their plate without investing in that.

I'd dare say that if they seriously planned to start a new Batman franchise, introducing their new Batman in a Superman film would be problematic at best...but it works just fine if they only plan to use Batman in team movies for the time being.

At the start of the year, I read that WB were planning to use the JLA movie to introduce their new Batman. If that story did reflect their thinking at that time, it looks to me like they've just readjusted their plan so as to use the Supes/Bats film to do so instead.
 
See? WB has already done a masterful job of setting expectations low.

And RDJ costs too much as well.

RDJ was paid 50 million for the first Avengers, and will like get more for the sequels. But Marvel Studios apparently thinks he is worth the investment since they just signed him for two sequels.

Since Marvel Studios has the massive Disney empire backing them, money shouldn't be an issue for them.
 
I'm sure Marvel and Disney alike grit their teeth at giving RDJ deals as rich as that - RDJ has said as much - but he's too important to their continued box office success not to do so.
 
Let’s face it, it’s beyond mythological to have Superman and our new Batman facing off, since they are the greatest Super Heroes in the world.”

http://batman-news.com/2013/07/20/warner-bros-announces-batman-superman-movie-for-2015/

So they are going to be enemy's? I still don't get how that works, but I understand there is a precedent for it from the older comics, correct? Could someone who knows that story shed a little light on the dynamics of their embattled interactions together?


Can we talk about the new logo for a minute, please. Anyone else notice anything strange about the the bat logo...

Here it is as unveiled at comic con. http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2013/07/superman-batman-logo-SDCC.jpg

This new bat logo most closely resembles the following version.

http://imjustcreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/evolution-of-batman-logo-tim-burton.jpg

That is NOT a Burton/Schmacher era logo. Could they be 'retro-booting' this Batman back to a comic version, prior to the Burton era?

Additional link from research. http://imjustcreative.com/evolution-batman-logo/2012/05/03/
 
Let’s face it, it’s beyond mythological to have Superman and our new Batman facing off, since they are the greatest Super Heroes in the world.”

http://batman-news.com/2013/07/20/warner-bros-announces-batman-superman-movie-for-2015/

So they are going to be enemy's? I still don't get how that works, but I understand there is a precedent for it from the older comics, correct? Could someone who knows that story shed a little light on the dynamics of their embattled interactions together?

As mentioned already, it's a standard comic-book trope to have superheroes fight each other first and then figure out they're on the same side and work together. While the older comics portrayed Superman and Batman as equally wholesome do-gooders and best friends, comics and animated productions from the '80s onward have tended to show them starting out as rivals or uneasy allies due to their clashing methods and worldviews, and only later learning to respect and trust each other.


That is NOT a Burton/Schmacher era logo. Could they be 'retro-booting' this Batman back to a comic version, prior to the Burton era?

One can't read too much into a logo, especially not a tentative one like this. They haven't even written a script yet, let alone hired a director and art director who would determine what design to use for Batman's costume and logo in the film. When they do, they'll go with whatever logo design the art director's staff devises that the director is most satisfied with, and whether it resembles a particular comics design will be irrelevant since most moviegoers have never read the comics.

The designers of this logo probably just went with a batsymbol of that shape because the Superman shield could fit inside it.
 
What they're trying to set up is a DC Universe franchise, and there's no way they'd do that without Batman being an ongoing part of it.
I agree, but I think they can do that with the new Batman appearing only in team movies, rather than investing in a new series for him.

Along those lines, if they are getting a brand-new Batman for the role, they could veer a little more in the direction of character actor rather than leading man, if he doesn't have to star in his own movies.

RDJ was paid 50 million for the first Avengers, and will like get more for the sequels. But Marvel Studios apparently thinks he is worth the investment since they just signed him for two sequels.

Since Marvel Studios has the massive Disney empire backing them, money shouldn't be an issue for them.
Warner Bros. ain't exactly a penny-ante operation, either.
 
What they're trying to set up is a DC Universe franchise, and there's no way they'd do that without Batman being an ongoing part of it.
I agree, but I think they can do that with the new Batman appearing only in team movies, rather than investing in a new series for him.

Why in the world would they do it that way? Batman is the only superhero who's been consistently viable as a live-action film property for Warner Bros. in the past 30 years. I can see them using him, Superman, or both as anchors for other superheroes' films, similarly to Nick Fury's role in Marvel, but there's no way they'd put a moratorium on Batman solo films. He's their cash cow, uh, bat.


Along those lines, if they are getting a brand-new Batman for the role, they could veer a little more in the direction of character actor rather than leading man...

Isn't that what Christian Bale is?
 
Who says they're trying to set up a new Batman franchise. It's too soon, and they've got plenty on their plate without investing in that.

Because the WB want $$$ and you could have this in 2015 (I think 1 year too early, a project like this needs 3 year cycle not 2) and then a Justice League movie followed by a reboot Batman, which could easily be 2019/2020 so 7 or 8 years a similar amount of time between Batman & Robin and Batman Begins.
 
I am hoping though that the screenplay for this movie will give some more screen time to Clark's supporting cast. We have seen enough Batman recently that we don't need more of his journey and life as Bruce Wayne. Perhaps a Bruce Wayne comes to Metropolis so that the movie will still be principally a Superman movie?
 
Why in the world would they do it that way? Batman is the only superhero who's been consistently viable as a live-action film property for Warner Bros. in the past 30 years. I can see them using him, Superman, or both as anchors for other superheroes' films, similarly to Nick Fury's role in Marvel, but there's no way they'd put a moratorium on Batman solo films. He's their cash cow, uh, bat.
7 Batfilms in the last quarter century...they're just coming off a successful Bat-franchise that casts a large shadow....They'd be best to give him a rest when it comes to solo films. And giving us a new Batman who only appears in team films could generate more interest for those films in which he appears. He's been successful enough solo recently that they could afford to focus his efforts on helping the greater franchise rather than his own series.
 
I've not seen everything and unsure if some is speculation.
Are they saying the S&B film is it's own thing OR that the S&B film is a de facto MoS2?

If its going to be it's own thing, great. I've thought a Worlds Finest movie was necessary before a JLA anyway.
If it's de facto MoS2 I feel it jips Superman of the necessary solo world building. Especially after the events of the film in Metropolis and Smallville.
 
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