‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

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  1. marksound

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    I wasn't there, but this is what I read:

    http://batman-news.com/2013/07/20/warner-bros-announces-batman-superman-movie-for-2015/
     
  2. Christopher

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    What they're trying to set up is a DC Universe franchise, and there's no way they'd do that without Batman being an ongoing part of it.
     
  3. Out Of My Vulcan Mind

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    The quote from Snyder about a new Batman is from the press release. Here's the video of the announcement at the Comic-Con panel:

    [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-iGPHD1RBE&feature=player_embedded[/yt]
     
  4. Captaindemotion

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    At the start of the year, I read that WB were planning to use the JLA movie to introduce their new Batman. If that story did reflect their thinking at that time, it looks to me like they've just readjusted their plan so as to use the Supes/Bats film to do so instead.
     
  5. Dream

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    RDJ was paid 50 million for the first Avengers, and will like get more for the sequels. But Marvel Studios apparently thinks he is worth the investment since they just signed him for two sequels.

    Since Marvel Studios has the massive Disney empire backing them, money shouldn't be an issue for them.
     
  6. Out Of My Vulcan Mind

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    I'm sure Marvel and Disney alike grit their teeth at giving RDJ deals as rich as that - RDJ has said as much - but he's too important to their continued box office success not to do so.
     
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    ...it's about sending a message!
     
  8. Fist McStrongpunch

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    Man of Steel was one of the worst movies I have ever seen. I have a hard time believing even Batman could make this good.
     
  9. shapeshifter

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    So they are going to be enemy's? I still don't get how that works, but I understand there is a precedent for it from the older comics, correct? Could someone who knows that story shed a little light on the dynamics of their embattled interactions together?


    Can we talk about the new logo for a minute, please. Anyone else notice anything strange about the the bat logo...

    Here it is as unveiled at comic con. http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2013/07/superman-batman-logo-SDCC.jpg

    This new bat logo most closely resembles the following version.

    http://imjustcreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/evolution-of-batman-logo-tim-burton.jpg

    That is NOT a Burton/Schmacher era logo. Could they be 'retro-booting' this Batman back to a comic version, prior to the Burton era?

    Additional link from research. http://imjustcreative.com/evolution-batman-logo/2012/05/03/
     
  10. Dream

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    Too bad for you. This movie will have the same writers as MoS.
     
  11. Christopher

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    As mentioned already, it's a standard comic-book trope to have superheroes fight each other first and then figure out they're on the same side and work together. While the older comics portrayed Superman and Batman as equally wholesome do-gooders and best friends, comics and animated productions from the '80s onward have tended to show them starting out as rivals or uneasy allies due to their clashing methods and worldviews, and only later learning to respect and trust each other.


    One can't read too much into a logo, especially not a tentative one like this. They haven't even written a script yet, let alone hired a director and art director who would determine what design to use for Batman's costume and logo in the film. When they do, they'll go with whatever logo design the art director's staff devises that the director is most satisfied with, and whether it resembles a particular comics design will be irrelevant since most moviegoers have never read the comics.

    The designers of this logo probably just went with a batsymbol of that shape because the Superman shield could fit inside it.
     
  12. The Old Mixer

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    I agree, but I think they can do that with the new Batman appearing only in team movies, rather than investing in a new series for him.

    Along those lines, if they are getting a brand-new Batman for the role, they could veer a little more in the direction of character actor rather than leading man, if he doesn't have to star in his own movies.

    Warner Bros. ain't exactly a penny-ante operation, either.
     
  13. Galileo7

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    Agree, on all thoughts here.
    :shrug:
     
  14. Christopher

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    Why in the world would they do it that way? Batman is the only superhero who's been consistently viable as a live-action film property for Warner Bros. in the past 30 years. I can see them using him, Superman, or both as anchors for other superheroes' films, similarly to Nick Fury's role in Marvel, but there's no way they'd put a moratorium on Batman solo films. He's their cash cow, uh, bat.


    Isn't that what Christian Bale is?
     
  15. Jax

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    Because the WB want $$$ and you could have this in 2015 (I think 1 year too early, a project like this needs 3 year cycle not 2) and then a Justice League movie followed by a reboot Batman, which could easily be 2019/2020 so 7 or 8 years a similar amount of time between Batman & Robin and Batman Begins.
     
  16. bigdaddy

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    It's because Superman is lame and can't have his own series.
     
  17. theenglish

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    I am hoping though that the screenplay for this movie will give some more screen time to Clark's supporting cast. We have seen enough Batman recently that we don't need more of his journey and life as Bruce Wayne. Perhaps a Bruce Wayne comes to Metropolis so that the movie will still be principally a Superman movie?
     
  18. The Old Mixer

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    7 Batfilms in the last quarter century...they're just coming off a successful Bat-franchise that casts a large shadow....They'd be best to give him a rest when it comes to solo films. And giving us a new Batman who only appears in team films could generate more interest for those films in which he appears. He's been successful enough solo recently that they could afford to focus his efforts on helping the greater franchise rather than his own series.
     
  19. Out Of My Vulcan Mind

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    I'm guessing that's what they'll do.
     
  20. Captain Craig

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    I've not seen everything and unsure if some is speculation.
    Are they saying the S&B film is it's own thing OR that the S&B film is a de facto MoS2?

    If its going to be it's own thing, great. I've thought a Worlds Finest movie was necessary before a JLA anyway.
    If it's de facto MoS2 I feel it jips Superman of the necessary solo world building. Especially after the events of the film in Metropolis and Smallville.