Captain America: The Winter Soldier Discussion Thread - SPOILERS
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I watched it yesterday.
Random thoughts from a convo with a friend:
Bucky aka the Winter Soldier was not the real baddie. He was just a weapon in the Hyrda arsenal. It for me was more about the Capt coming to grips with the modern age and finding out that the world has changed. Now he is out to salvage scraps of his life and finding Bucky and helping him is step #1.
The story told in TWS is one heck of a gut punch in my book. You became a popsicle. They turned your BFF into a killing machine that does not remember you. The woman you loved married someone else and is now dying of old age. You did it all to stop Hydra and not only are they thriving - they played you.
That sucks.
In their own way each man will have to come to grips with the fact they were used by Hydra and for me that is powerful stuff.
Random thoughts from a convo with a friend:
Bucky aka the Winter Soldier was not the real baddie. He was just a weapon in the Hyrda arsenal. It for me was more about the Capt coming to grips with the modern age and finding out that the world has changed. Now he is out to salvage scraps of his life and finding Bucky and helping him is step #1.
The story told in TWS is one heck of a gut punch in my book. You became a popsicle. They turned your BFF into a killing machine that does not remember you. The woman you loved married someone else and is now dying of old age. You did it all to stop Hydra and not only are they thriving - they played you.
That sucks.
In their own way each man will have to come to grips with the fact they were used by Hydra and for me that is powerful stuff.
Fantastic film.. Cannot wait to see it again..
After I saw it, I picked up the Winter Soldier graphic novel (compilation, whatever) from a few years ago... It was cool to see dialog lifted straight from the comic and put into the script and it was STRIKING how similar Agent 13 in the movie looked like Agent 13 from the comic..
After I saw it, I picked up the Winter Soldier graphic novel (compilation, whatever) from a few years ago... It was cool to see dialog lifted straight from the comic and put into the script and it was STRIKING how similar Agent 13 in the movie looked like Agent 13 from the comic..
Come on now, that's a rookie mistake.Damn, I missed out on the 2nd after credits scene
They've always had and end credit ever since their first film, Iron Man 1.
The mid-credit is newer but does not supplant them doing an end credit.
Stay till the screen goes black.
Exactly, it should be second nature at this point to stay all the way through the credits in a Marvel movie.
Just watching the first Thor. Can't hell but think " bloody bastard traitor" now when Sitwell shows his smug face.
Yeah, I was confused at people leaving. Then again, I had a bit of a test of faith waiting to the end because they did turn on the lights after the first post-credits scene so I wasn't sure if the theater knew something I didn't.
Although, to be fair, this post-credits scene, while nifty, wasn't as big a loss as if you had missed Thor: TDW's one (or even the second Avengers one, which is very amusing).
I usually stay for the first post-credit scene but not the second one. Those theater employees are too eager to rush in and clean up.
^Tell them to wait until the freaking movie is over.
1. Cinema employees always know that they can't begin cleaning until every patron has left the auditorium if the credits are still rolling. If an employee pressures a guest to leave before the credits are over, you should feel free to talk to a manager, because they ought to know better than that.
2. Don't be too hard on them. Cinema employees have to clean every auditorium at the end of every show -- sometimes cleaning up huge messes -- in a very short amount of time in order to make sure not only that that auditorium is ready for the next showing, but that they have enough time to get to the other auditoriums and clean them in time for the next set. It's actually quite the challenge to move fast enough and be thorough enough to do the job, and the floor staff deserve respect for this work.
Sorry. I'm a manager at a cinema, so this stuff is my bread and butter.
FWIW, while I'm waiting through the credits, I gather up all of my own mess to throw it out for them. There are enough people who know to stay till the end at my cinema that I don't feel uncomfortable being one of them.
If you try to stop people leaving too loudly... Are you legally in trouble?
I didn't mention previously that I loved the Stan cameo in this one. I enjoy it when they give him a beat that would've worked without him, rather than shoehorning him in.
The movie wasn't very clear on how those individuals were targeted. I assumed Hydra was targeting the people most willing and able to form a resistance to a Hydra-led totalitarian regime.
The Stan cameo in this was definitely one of the better ones, I also really liked his cameo in the "Spider-Man" movie from a couple years ago, as a school librarian unknowingly organizing books while listening to music as Spidey and Lizard destroy the room behind him.
1. Cinema employees always know that they can't begin cleaning until every patron has left the auditorium if the credits are still rolling. If an employee pressures a guest to leave before the credits are over, you should feel free to talk to a manager, because they ought to know better than that.
2. Don't be too hard on them. Cinema employees have to clean every auditorium at the end of every show -- sometimes cleaning up huge messes -- in a very short amount of time in order to make sure not only that that auditorium is ready for the next showing, but that they have enough time to get to the other auditoriums and clean them in time for the next set. It's actually quite the challenge to move fast enough and be thorough enough to do the job, and the floor staff deserve respect for this work.
Sorry. I'm a manager at a cinema, so this stuff is my bread and butter.
I actually had to smile when as I was leaving TWS after the second end-credits stinger I heard the staff say "This was a good group". I assume because there wasn't a huge mess.
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